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Admin
Board Administrator
Username: Admin
Post Number: 38
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 03:45 pm: | 
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Sdhrts posted this question in the Meet and Greet Area and I thought it would be better here in the Discussion Area. Unluckily, when I tried to move it, the message got lost. Whoops! So I'm posting it here for him.
Sdhrts posted:
I Love this site. Question for all, but especially people living in England? Do you think spanking is more popular in England or are people in England more apt to freely discuss it? Sometimes, from my own experience, I think we're more secretive about spanking here. Present company excluded....lol |
Shylah
New member
Username: Shylah
Post Number: 15
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 04:07 pm: |
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OK...here are my thoughts...Spanking in England is just as popular as in the states. The main problem in the states is that it is so easy to get arrested for minor offenses, to be open about spanking lables the Top an abuser and the bottom as a freak. I don't think spanking in England is more popular, it's just easier to talk about it here. I am from the states but live in the UK. "Lables" are not put on people in the UK as easily as in the states. There seems to be more understanding here no matter what the persons lifestyle is. In the states it seems so easy for "jocks and rednecks" to make fun of lifestyles. People do talk more openly in the UK and seem to have a respect for the lifestyles of others. Respect for lifestyles in the states is not easily found.
Anyway...those are my thoughts and opinions for what they are worth.
I DIDN'T DO IT!! I'm innocent I tell ya!! INNOCENT!! TRUST ME!!!
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Babyj4
Prime Spanko
Username: Babyj4
Post Number: 1080
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 05:16 pm: |
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I totally agree with Shylah. Now a days almost everything is abuse. It's rediculous
Babyj- worlds cutest little brat!
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Sdhrts
New member
Username: Sdhrts
Post Number: 7
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 03:53 am: |
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Thanks for the first hand insight Shayla. You too Babyj4. And thanks to Admin for literally putting me in my place.(happens to me all the time) I’ll get it yet. |
Bethie
Moderator/Spanking Aficionado
Username: Bethie
Post Number: 481
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 05:09 am: |
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 No worries, Sdhrts! I just thought you might get more responses over here. |
Amarie
New member
Username: Amarie
Post Number: 4
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 05:48 am: |
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I was just thinking to myself a few days ago, that often the blogs I read where the husband and wife (or partners) are more open about their kink, they always seem to be living in the UK.
I, too, think it's just a matter of being more open over there. |
Ftopinmichigan
Spanko
Username: Ftopinmichigan
Post Number: 67
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 08:30 am: |
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As I see it, the US is a sexually repressed nation, as compared to the UK. Just look at how the media is able to express sexuality there, as compared to here.
I think UK folks are more free to express themselves, but I don't know if there's more spanking there. There's plenty of spanko's in the USA....believe me!
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Shylah
New member
Username: Shylah
Post Number: 19
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 10:39 am: |
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Oh there are LOTS of spankos on both sides of the Great Pond!!! and the UK isn't as repressed as the states...that's for sure!!
I DIDN'T DO IT!! I'm innocent I tell ya!! INNOCENT!! TRUST ME!!!
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Surefire
New member
Username: Surefire
Post Number: 6
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 07:06 pm: |
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Well, as someone who lives in England, I'm not sure there's as much difference between us as you think. I've never visited the states, but my gut feeling is that our levels of repression are nearer to yours than they are to the rest of mainland Europe (those guys are WAY more relaxed!).
It's not that many years ago that we had the infamous 'Spanner' case here, where a group of men were jailed for conscensual S/M acts. Admittedly, what they were getting up to was extremely hardcore, but the end result was a Judge announcing that anything which left more than 'trifling' marks on a persons body could be considered abuse, regardless of whether there was consent or not. You can imagine photos of someones bottom being passed around a court room as people try and decide whether those stripes/welts/bruises were more than trifling. I don't think this will ever happen in reality, but it is in theory possible.
The thing that really surprises me about the tone of this thread though, is that I always had the impression that spanking was much more acceptable in America than here the UK. Here you rarely hear about spanking, but in the States it appears more widespread throughout your culture. You have film and tv references to it, you have birthday spankings and sorority paddlings. It's always seemed to me that Americans are much more at home with the idea of spanking than we are here. Have I been mistaken all this time?
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Shylah
Advanced Spanko
Username: Shylah
Post Number: 133
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 21, 2005 - 08:13 am: |
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Now that I think about it...it's probably the same on both continents. Discretion I think is the key. All D/s acts need to be mutual agreements. And if the respect is there, not only for the Spanker but for the spankee as well, there should never be any reason for the law to intervene. The main thing to remember...RESPECT
I DIDN'T DO IT!! I'm innocent I tell ya!! INNOCENT!! TRUST ME!!!
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Tammynx
New member
Username: Tammynx
Post Number: 15
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 21, 2005 - 04:56 pm: |
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Shylah your right about it being hard in the states. You can't say anything out loud without someone thinking you are being abused or something. My husband just has that "look" and he doesn't have to say anything....I guess we have a silent communication when we are out of the house.
It would be nice not to have to worry about it so much. |
Babyj4
Prime Spanko
Username: Babyj4
Post Number: 1401
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 21, 2005 - 04:58 pm: |
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I agree, but things will not change over night, people are just to judgemental here
Babyj- worlds cutest little brat!
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Tammynx
New member
Username: Tammynx
Post Number: 20
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 21, 2005 - 06:54 pm: |
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they sure are.... |
Babyj4
Prime Spanko
Username: Babyj4
Post Number: 1413
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 21, 2005 - 07:00 pm: |
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my best friends brother-in-law is definatly a dom, I can tell, i was so attracted to that when I met him, but I cant say anything to either one of them, cause I don't know for sure.
Babyj- worlds cutest little brat!
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Shylah
Advanced Spanko
Username: Shylah
Post Number: 169
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 09:23 am: |
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You do have to be careful...unless, like me, you get a lil booze in ya and then the tongue goes to town! I've had many red bums over that...sighhhhh
I'm just a lil angel..innocent and sweet...BECAUSE I SAY SO!
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Tammynx
New member
Username: Tammynx
Post Number: 25
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 05:31 pm: |
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I've met a few people that I was so sure were into "this" but I was afraid to say anything...I would die if I was wrong and said something!! |
Shylah
Advanced Spanko
Username: Shylah
Post Number: 177
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 05:48 pm: |
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I got a t-shirt that says...I'm a SPANKO! Join in the fun! Get lots of grins with that one
I'm just a lil angel..innocent and sweet...BECAUSE I SAY SO!
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Angelbabe
Advanced Spanko
Username: Angelbabe
Post Number: 378
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 02:37 am: |
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Being in England i would say no it's not something that you can go out and discuss in the streets or something that even this country really accepts we say we are very opened minded tee shirts aside that say spanko which over here is taken as a joke since u should see some of the stuff we put on our tee shirts. We are very closed minded society wise not saying the people are but our governing body sure are this is the one of the prime examples when i first started down on the D/s lifestyle i wanted as much details as i could get coming from both fictional to factual sources so i did most of my research on the net and then saw a copule of books from people that had been part of the life and decided they want to write about it so i couldn't at the time afford to buy them so i went out to my public libiary to try and get them i search ever where for them when i spoke to one of the desk clerks she told me in the end that the books wouldn't be on the selves as they had been banned from public libaries as they are seen as they were seen to be accepting of abuse towards woman.
as a country we like to come across as open and accepting but the actual view that is really made to the people that live here isn't that way at all
I should be good, i should be good but being bad is so much Better
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Shylah
Advanced Spanko
Username: Shylah
Post Number: 242
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 07:53 pm: |
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Isn't it strange that a gay person can openly talk about their lifestyle but us spankos are too scared to say a word?
I am the Queen of the F***** Universe!!! Any questions???
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Vulcano
New member
Username: Vulcano
Post Number: 37
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 05:53 am: |
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Well, in my Crises intervention course last week, we were talking about sexuality and minorities and there was soooo much said about gays and lesbians and nothing about other sexual minorities. It seems to me that till they meet someone like us in person in an intimate relationship, they wouldn't take it seriously... and there was even a group of people who prefer having sex after marriage... well, then, I guess that those already married were lucky enough not to meet a spanko if they themselves were not. I wonder, what a Catholic would do in such a relationship... I guess, I'll ask next time how would they deal with that :-))) Well, maybe a Catholic spanko would never admit to himself that s/he has such a kink. Or at least wouldn't admit it to his partner, embarassed. I was even guite shocked to hear some Christian minded people saying that even homosexuality, God knows whether it's really an illness. Or>well, we have nothing against them as people, but their behaviour... they shouldn't do it. And as for spanking, I must say that even in my country there's no way I could say it loud... and my spanker partner would be even afraid that it could lead to him being suied for a domestic violance. Who would believe me saying I wanted to get spanked?? And I think a lot is said by the mere fact that since some time, Czech spanking movies would not be delivered to the Czech Republic and Slovakia... I don't know, I've heard of some legal problems... quite absurd, isn't it? |
Ftopinmichigan
Spanko
Username: Ftopinmichigan
Post Number: 86
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 08:20 am: |
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I was raised Catholic, and I never heard that spanking was against God's rules. I don't recall hearing that sex was bad either...we just didn't hear ANYTHING about it at all.
Many of my spanko friends are religious (quite a few are practicing Catholics), and few have issue with it conflicting with their interest, in fact there are Christian BDSM groups here, that really seem to thrive on DD in the home.
Spare the rod and all.
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Babyj4
Prime Spanko
Username: Babyj4
Post Number: 1854
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 08:23 am: |
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lol funny how that topic was avoided at all costs huh Ftop. I was also raised Catholic and spanking was totally acceptable, and I don't think either one of them talked about sex. Lol I learned in school and from older friends.
(Message edited by babyj4 on October 27, 2005)
Babyj- worlds cutest little brat!
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Shylah
Advanced Spanko
Username: Shylah
Post Number: 297
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 11:10 am: |
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I too was raised Catholic. Then when I reached the age of reason, I decided I didn't care for the "country club" atmosphere I felt inside that church. I now have returned to my tribal beliefs..I am a Native American Choctaw and I follow the spiritual teachings of my tribe. I feel more comfortable with it, being able to talk directly to Grandfather or to Mother Earth. As far as spanking goes, never met an indian that didn't raise his eyebrows or grin when it was mentioned...LOL.
However, I do feel that gays and lesbians have more freedom to openly live their lifestyle when us spankos still have to stay "in the closet". We would suffer more prosecution than they do. The laws in any country would have a field day sticking their collective noses into our private lives. Sadly, we have to keep ourselves undercover.
I am the Queen of the F***** Universe!!! Any questions???
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Ftopinmichigan
Spanko
Username: Ftopinmichigan
Post Number: 88
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 01:25 pm: |
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I don't know about spanko's being so closeted.
I had the TV on today, and an old 'Spin City' was on, and I caught the end of the scene, but the Deputy Mayor got a spanking, from a Domme, during a radio show (ala Howard Stern). I don't know if they showed anything, but he was lifting his pants up, rubbing his bottom, and begging the Mayor never to be a naughty boy again. 
In a later scene, he had difficulty sitting!
I think I see a reference a week on the major channels, and I can only imagine how much is on cable.
My neighbors, devote Muslims, were chasing each other down the front porch steps on day, and then around their van. (I think they are either newly married, or she only gained access to this country recently.) When she caught him, the were laughing really loudly (about six houses away). She swatted his behind, as he rushed up the steps...and she rushed behind him. One can only guess what happened next.
I think in a "disciplinary" sense, for those that enjoy it, or think it really helps them...that'll be hard to accept. For those that enjoy the sensual aspects of spanking....it's not so difficult to understand, for many people.
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Shylah
Advanced Spanko
Username: Shylah
Post Number: 301
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 01:45 pm: |
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My reference to "being so closeted" is due to the fact that, with full consent of the spankee, a spanker has been brought up with charges for assault and either fined or imprisoned. Therefore, spankos have to be very careful with whom they discuss their lifestyle. We are not given the freedom to discuss it openly in order to protect ourselves from prosecution. Or ridicule.
I personally feel that there is a predijuce (mispelled I know) toward spanking whether it is between consenting adults or a parent spanking a child. A person who enjoys the sting of a spanking or the emotional responses it touches, is considered "sick" and in need of therapy. A "vanilla" person does not realize that the spanking itself is therapy to the spanko. And if the spanking is not used for therapy to the receiver, but as a playful way that spankos have to interact, it is still considered sick. And as one who has had that label put on me for deciding to have my lifestyle include spanking, I am tired of "better than thou" attitudes.
I am the Queen of the F***** Universe!!! Any questions???
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Sdhrts
New member
Username: Sdhrts
Post Number: 13
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 02:08 pm: |
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We're definitely making progress in the U.S.A. Speaking for myself, I’m much more open about spanking than I once was. Being single and involved in the dating scene still,I refer to spanking quickly in new situations. Subtlety is important along with the ability to back out in an emergency. A few weeks ago I met a nice looking lady and on the 2nd date, after teasing and kidding alot, I started asking her”"what am I going to do with you"(a great ice breaker and test) several times in a row.She answered "spank me" every time! The first time we were together in our under things I felt the green light to turn her across my knees for a playful and erotic spanking session (felt pretty confident at that point...lol)and on her bare bottom. It was a fairly crisp spanking,but she laughed all
through it, with half hearted struggling to get away. I, being a switch also, will always mention that I'm to old for a spanking, hoping for the answer we all know!Guess the point i'm trying to make is there are a lot of closet spaqnko's hoping for a playmate to come along. Be great if we could all talk about it more openly.I include me when I say that too. I guess my point is we sometimes have to sniff each other out on both sides of the Atlantic. |
Shylah
Advanced Spanko
Username: Shylah
Post Number: 308
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2005 - 02:23 pm: |
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Oh don't get me wrong!! I get a few tequilas in me and my mouth goes into overdrive. I'll be so bold and full of that stuff, I'll almost hang a sign that says I'm a spanko. Most men will find me more attractive at that point and most women will want to know more about it. And if some guy says he has never fantasized about putting a girl over his knee and spanking her bare bottom...he's LYING.
I am the Queen of the F***** Universe!!! Any questions???
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