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J1234
New member Username: J1234
Post Number: 1 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 09:01 pm: |
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Hello, all, My husband and I started this lifestyle a couple of years ago. We are not into DD, just erotic and I also get "emotional release" and "motivation" type of spankings, when I need them. We've been using "little bear" neoprene strap I got from Adams and Gillians (http://www.aswgt.com/bears.html). Of course its a love and hate with this thing, because it can hurt like hell, but it gets the job done whether for pleasure or for behavior modification purposes. I've been wanting to get something else for variety, but I am at a loss. I'm looking for the following properties: 1. would like stingy, not thuddy, 2. easy to control (he is not that experienced), 3. provide as much sting as possible with as little bruising as possible, and no permanent damage. 4. safe to use for intense session(meaning no permanent damage from occasional heavy or misplaced stoke) and could be applied with soft, gentle effect. 5. will give a significant amount of pain with a moderate stoke. He does not like to get a work out by spanking me, the easier it is to get a result, the better for him. 6. Not too loud(would not want neighbours to come over and ruin the fun). I was doing a lot of research on the web, but could not really find an implement that would satisfy all of those properties. Cane may provide the sensation I want, but I know it can be dangerous and can leave long-lasting marks(definitely don't want that!). So I guess I'm looking at a some kind of paddle or strap combination. The only thing is that I heard that paddles tend to be really "thuddy", and some straps are too flexible and hard to control, so I'm totally at a loss. Other then the "bear", we've tried hand (he gets tired way before I do), wooden paddle brush(gentle sting, but will not relieve any stress), the belt, and the crop. Both belt and crop had to be swung too hard to be effective, and resulted in huge deep black and blue marks. Basically, other then the "bear" we've had pretty dissappointing experiences with other implements. The bear does leave bruises, but they seem to be on the surface of the skin and dissappear withing several days, which is acceptable. Hubby loves the bear, that's the only thing he spanks me with. I don't mind, but I wish we had more variety. Since most of people on this forum seem to be experienced with a variety of implements, I was hoping I could get some good suggestions from you guys. I'm totally frustrated that even though I want to be spanked, I cannot find a suitable implement to be spanked with! Can you please help with a suggestion? If anyone has any suggestions on something I can pick up at a local store that matches description above, that would be great! I'd love to make it a Christmas present! |
Tmichellebrat
New member Username: Tmichellebrat
Post Number: 46 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 09:34 pm: |
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Hi J1234.... Let me suggest the loopy johnny...it about describes what you are looking for in an implement. My Dom has used it on me and it can be used at three different levels ...light, moderate, or heavy which makes it versatile in use. It is a light weight and small implement so it's very easy to work with and very stingy without the thuddy. If used heavy then it can leave some nasty bruising but when used light or moderate the bruising is light and no permanent damage results. I have only had the privlege of feeling the light and moderate use of this implement and it's quite stingy ...it's about the only implement that I move or squirm around with because the sting is very intense. The link below is a picture of the implement so you can get an idea of what it is because I never had heard of this implement until I met my Dom and he used it on me for the first time for punishment....boy do I avoid it LOL. It does state that it is a severe implement but it can be used light...moderate and heavy ...and can be used for erotic spankings as well. I hope this helps some. http://www.aswgt.com/loopy.html |
Humblebutt
New member Username: Humblebutt
Post Number: 14 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 09:55 pm: |
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From the looks of it, the Loopy Johnny will hurt more per decibel than almost any other implement out there! For sting-y but less thud-y paddle type implements, try a big flat wooden spatula, or a ping pong paddle with a pimpled rubber surface, or a leather paddle, or a handle mounted strap, or stingy flogger, or a leather sandle, or a... |
Katie_spades
Spanko Username: Katie_spades
Post Number: 63 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 01:42 am: |
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I personally think the hairbrush can be quite stingy. Please sir, I don't need a spanking. I'll be good, I promise!
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Katie_spades
Spanko Username: Katie_spades
Post Number: 64 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 01:43 am: |
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You might like a good hairbrush from Shadow lane. Mine is from there and is quite stingy. Please sir, I don't need a spanking. I'll be good, I promise!
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Ftopinmichigan
Advanced Spanko Username: Ftopinmichigan
Post Number: 250 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 06:26 am: |
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Hi, J, welcome to the Den. Maybe you'd enjoy trying rubber. It can be quite wicked with "sting" and still be a bit quiet, as compared to leather or wooden paddles. A man I know makes a great rubber strap, at spankncane.com. He also makes other rubber implements, and for some reason, I'm remembering a rubber paddle, like the paddleball style too, although I didn't see it on his website. Rubber coated canes work nicely too, although they can welt, like any cane stroke. I'd highly recommend the LoopyJohnnny, as Michelle mentioned too, as it's the most quiet toy I've ever used. K PS Also, check the "Stinger" paddle at spankncane.com - it's a thin wooden paddle, very reasonably priced, that packs a nice sting. It one of my favored toys to enjoy OTK. |
Rex138
New member Username: Rex138
Post Number: 14 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 08:52 am: |
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Few things come to mind: 1) I've heard alot about lexan packing a sting however I've never experienced myself. 2) A long handled, plastic shower brush. Have experienced and - VERY Stingy. 3) Off the beaten path - Sandals. My wife is a sandal freak and I have gotten it by almost every pair. I LOVE getting spanked by her with her sandals, simply because there is such a variety of 'feels' between them BUT there are quite a few that are VERY stingy. Always interesting when we've been together while she is trying on and buying new sandals. BTW - Before you write off a sandal as not being stingy enough, have your husband give you a few with the heel (flat sandal with a pancake heel) and see if that doesn't pack enough sting for you. What's also cool about them is that when we travel, she always seems to wear or pack a pair that can keep me in line. Hurray for descreet implements! rex "Stixn'Stones Luv"
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Kennysspankee
Spanko Username: Kennysspankee
Post Number: 78 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 03:12 pm: |
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Yeah, I vouch for the lexan for sting intensity without thud, unless applied hard. We got ours at Hanson Paddle Werks, the ferule 1/4" thick, no holes. |
Kennysspankee
Spanko Username: Kennysspankee
Post Number: 79 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 03:56 pm: |
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Was just thinking about that Loopy Johnny. We made a whip-type implement (2 actually, one with 1 strand and one with 3 strands) out of the same type of leather the loopy is made out of. I got it from a heavy leather skipping rope. That thing hurts like the cane, the deep down pain as well as the sting is very intense. It's not a whole lotta fun, but I guess as a punishment implement it would be in the top 3. So I've never been tempted to buy an actual Loopy Johnny. And both of those stay well on the bottom of the box! The ruler strap from London Tanners has a very intense sting and burn, I would recommend it. Fits right into the love/hate catagory. |
J1234
New member Username: J1234
Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 06:39 pm: |
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Thank you all very much for all your suggestions! You gave me a lot to think about. I will have to go back and do more reasearch on all your suggestions! Loopy Johnny looks quite intriguing. Do you find it may be hard to control sometimes to where it falls? Does it fall all over the place, or do all the loops fall pretty much close together? Do you think a round extention cord may give similar sensation? The rubber does pack quite a sting, that's what we are using now! Thankfully my hubby does not use it at full swing, I shudder to think what that might feel like. Thanks a lot for all your suggestions, I'll probably be back with more questions once I've done my research... |
Ftopinmichigan
Advanced Spanko Username: Ftopinmichigan
Post Number: 253 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 06:46 pm: |
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J, the LoopyJohhny (LJ) and an extension cord are not comparable, IMO. As for "controlling" it, and where it falls, the strands tend to stay together, with the momentum of the swing. The Top/Dom, does need to use it with caution, and a bit of a light hand, as it's not like other more traditional type implements. It does not take much to get the desired result. The LJ does not have to be full force, to make a good impact. K |
Shylah
Advanced Spanko Username: Shylah
Post Number: 521 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 08:45 pm: |
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I prefer the belt after a nice hand warm up. But then, one of our paddles has a MEAN sting. Depends on what he's in the mood for. Take my heart and soul. But please don't step on it, it breaks easily.
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Zippo
Supreme Spanko Username: Zippo
Post Number: 1425 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 03:34 pm: |
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I agree with the others the the loopy johnny would be a nice choice. Lexan does indeed have quite a bite to its bark, but it is not a quiet implement if noise is a factor. My lexan paddle does have holes, so I dont know if one without is any less noisy or not. The Brat Tamer...changing brats attitudes one smack at a time
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Katie_spades
Spanko Username: Katie_spades
Post Number: 73 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 11:16 pm: |
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Speaking of which where would everyone suggest to buy a good lexan? Please sir, I don't need a spanking. I'll be good, I promise!
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J1234
New member Username: J1234
Post Number: 4 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 11:12 pm: |
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I was looking at some lexan paddles online and noticed that they all seemed to have straight holes, nothing beveled. Reading another thread about non-beveled holes, I really would not want to have anything non-beveled and non-rounded! No blisters for me. I also saw some spanking pictures online of very deeply briused buttocks seemingly using lexan paddle, and those pictures downright scared me from that implement! So, I guess I have 2 questions on lexan: 1. Do they make "beveled" and "rounded" lexan paddles, and 2. Does lexan tend to buise more compared with other paddles/straps/Loopy Johnny type equipment, or what I saw was a result of extreme spanking? |
Tmichellebrat
New member Username: Tmichellebrat
Post Number: 50 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 08:04 pm: |
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In my opinion and being that I have experienced the lexan paddle I think what you saw was from an extreme spanking. Paddles no matter if they are lexan or wood do leave bruising ....but only leave deep bruising if used extremley hard. Also keep in mind that some just bruise easier than others too. |
Shylah
Advanced Spanko Username: Shylah
Post Number: 528 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 08:24 pm: |
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A wooden paddle does NOT need to be swung hard. You can get the desired effect by just letting it fall with a flick of the wrist. Using a wooden paddle harshly can not only cause bruising but can cause nerve damage if you aren't careful. Avoid the hips with a paddle. If you see bruising begin, or the threat of the skin breaking, then it's time to stop. If someone uses a paddle or any implement and causes bruising, then they aren't using it correctly and they need to back off. My hubby has used just about every kind of implement on me and has NEVER bruised me. A true experienced Dom will know how to use implements correctly. Take my heart and soul. But please don't step on it, it breaks easily.
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J1234
New member Username: J1234
Post Number: 5 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 09:46 pm: |
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Thank you everyone for your comments again! Yeah, by reading more about lexan it sounds like I won't need to be hit hard enough with that to be bruised, which is a good thing. So, my next question is with Katie's: "Where to buy a good lexan?" Does anyone have any opinion on thickness of lexan, 1/4 inch or 3/8? Does it even matter for lexan? Shylah - very interesting comment. Is there a place on internet where newbies like myself can partake in this knowledge? My hubby and I do play carefully, to make sure there is no real damage, but it would be nice to know of any special techniques used to keep the intensity and minimize bruising. I'm sorry for all these technical questions, but I really feel that there is a lack of information out there for newbies like me. Thanks a lot for sharing your knowledge and experience! |
Kennysspankee
Spanko Username: Kennysspankee
Post Number: 83 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Monday, December 19, 2005 - 03:30 am: |
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We have the 1/4" lexan, no holes. It's the ferule from Hanson Paddle Werks. It is weighty. It doesn't look like much but it has presence. I would think that anything thicker than that would be extreme and a definite bruiser. Lexan packs an intense sting and burn. |
Rex138
New member Username: Rex138
Post Number: 23 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 10:07 pm: |
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Katie, I saw some nice lexan paddles at paddlemaker.com BTW - they have some AWESOME (and scary) looking rubber straps that I may just have to buy! "It seemed like a good idea at the time."
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