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Sassyaawaa
New member
Username: Sassyaawaa
Post Number: 22
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 01:17 am: | 
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Okay, here goes my question...I sure hope I don't anyone upset with this one. I have been reading the General Discussion thread ever since I joined and I have come to the conclusion that "bratting" is frowned upon by a lot of people. My question is why? A wonderful disciplinarian from my past used to love it occasionally when I would pull little stunts. Yes, they ended up with me getting a spanking but as long as I didn't do it all the time, he actually got a kick out of it. For example, one time, when over his knee, I had previously hidden a bottle of nailpolish and when he first started spanking me, I pulled it out from under the couch and asked "Do you mind if I do this while you go on and on as to how I need to stop staying up so late?" 
So, if those of you who seem to frown upon it could help me to understand, I would really appreciate it.  |
Shylah
Advanced Spanko
Username: Shylah
Post Number: 735
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 07:09 am: |
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I've always said a little bratting done in a lighthearted way is fine. It's when the bratting goes overboard. That's when it gets tiresome and old.
I brat. Just not all the time. Sometimes it's not intentional either...it just happens.
Take my heart and soul. But please don't step on it, it breaks easily.
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Pinkcheeks
Advanced Spanko
Username: Pinkcheeks
Post Number: 205
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 08:31 am: |
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I totally agree with Shylah! I think its when someone goes wayyy overboard that its gets annoying to most Doms (imo). I know "R" likes it when I am a bit of a brat - done is fun - but I know when and where to draw the line. And I the older I get, the more ridiculous being a brat "on purpose" seems to be.
"Thought I WAS being a good girl...really I did!"
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Reader_girl
Spanko
Username: Reader_girl
Post Number: 101
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 09:57 am: |
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I think 'playful' is the key. Is it something that would get you a laugh and a spanking? Then it's perfect. Meanspirited or spiteful bratting can really disrupt a relationship.
Reader Girl
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Wolfie
Moderator/Spanking Aficionado
Username: Wolfie
Post Number: 1457
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 10:26 am: |
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I'm with Reader girl...playful teasing is one thing, meanspirited attempts to force a spanking are another. At parties I've seen drinks poured on Doms and seen them sprayed with silly string, with no regard for the cleaning bill afterwards. Nasty, cutting remarks dont get you spanked, they get you ignored or shunned like the plague.
I'm very careful with bratting, no spanking is worth the hurt feelings that can come about from insensitivity. 
If you live to be a hundred, I want to live to be a hundred minus one day, so I never have to live without you.
Grow old with me, the best is yet to be.
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Fanny
Moderator/Spanking Aficionado
Username: Fanny
Post Number: 2066
Registered: 05-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 10:29 am: |
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I agree with "playful" or "spirited" being a better description. It is when someone is acting childish, rude and spiteful that "bratting"
gets a bad reputaion. I can be a terrible (wonderful?) tease at times, but do not throw rude comments et cetera at anyone just to get attention.
Queen of Innocence
"Well behaved woman rarely make history"
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Darwins
Spanko
Username: Darwins
Post Number: 137
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 04:22 pm: |
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The trouble with bratting is that it is so often ‘contrived’ as if it is something that ‘has’ to be done and because it is done almost without regard for the circumstances or the situation – often produces the opposite effect to the one intended.
I have seen So many ladies get regularly spanked at clubs by any number of Doms / spankers because of their bratting. They think this makes them fun or popular, when the truth is nearer to them being spanked more out of annoyance than fun by the spankers.
Spontaneous bratting is something totally different. To me this is when a situation or remark totally uncontrived or said in innocence leaves the Dom fighting to keep a straight face or having to pause the spanking to laugh out loud.
One is fun – the other rarely is………………
I'm a king bee baby Buzzing round your hive
we can make honey baby if you let me come inside
Come on babe lets buzzzzz a while.
(Rolling Stones)
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Sassyaawaa
New member
Username: Sassyaawaa
Post Number: 23
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, March 26, 2006 - 05:56 pm: |
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Thank you everyone for your feedback. I really have it straight in my head now. None of what I do is either insulting, hurtful, mean spirited or planned. It is just a part of my personality and Darwins you hit the nail on the head, because there have been quite a few times when my spankers have either laughed out loud or I could feel their trying to stiffle a laugh so I feel much better about my question now. Thanks again everyone! |
Darwins
Spanko
Username: Darwins
Post Number: 143
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 03:21 pm: |
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Glad to help xx
I'm a king bee baby Buzzing round your hive
we can make honey baby if you let me come inside
Come on babe lets buzzzzz a while.
(Rolling Stones)
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Redhinney
Advanced Spanko
Username: Redhinney
Post Number: 370
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 05:56 pm: |
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Bill dosen't call what I have as bratting he calls it spunk things happen and they are funny and it is usually very hard for him to keep a straght face, That spunk is so much a part of me that to stop it would be impossible. I don't think up things they just happen and Bill wouldn't have it any other way- Steve is right having spunk or being a bit of a natural brat is soemthing that niether the top or the bottom has control over it just happens.
Love can't always be seen or heard but will always be felt with your heart
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Sassyaawaa
New member
Username: Sassyaawaa
Post Number: 30
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, March 27, 2006 - 11:41 pm: |
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Hi Red, I told my Hubby what you wrote and he said "My Sassy One, I wouldn't have you any other way either." I really do think that some of the things that come out of my mouth, without my brain being in gear, makes him really crack up! |
Redhinney
Advanced Spanko
Username: Redhinney
Post Number: 373
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 08:06 am: |
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Sassyaawaa,
I keep telling Bill that one of these days I am going for a brain scan because I'm sure the part of the brin that is uppose to ngage before you open your mouth and let things fly out is malfunctioning in my case. He just laughs and says hunny even if the scan proved that I wouldn't want you to take any medications o do anything to change it. I love you just as you are. Ya gota love him.
Love can't always be seen or heard but will always be felt with your heart
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Sassyaawaa
New member
Username: Sassyaawaa
Post Number: 32
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 12:18 pm: |
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Wow, Red ~ he sure is a keeper!! I am very happy for you! Btw, just Sassy is enough, you can drop the AAWAA <an> My halo is off to Bill |
Sassyaawaa
New member
Username: Sassyaawaa
Post Number: 33
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 12:20 pm: |
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Hmmmm I don't know why the post didn't come out the way I typed it but after AAWAA it was suppose say in brackets An Angel With An Attitude...not that it really matters |
Uh_oh
New member
Username: Uh_oh
Post Number: 2
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2006 - 10:56 am: |
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I agree, i brat a lot but never to hurt someone and i know when to stop. otherwise, it would just push my mentor away and i wouldn't want that! |
Otter
New member
Username: Otter
Post Number: 21
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 11:09 am: |
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So I am trying out the whole "playful bratting" thing. My husband says he likes it, just as long as I stop short of open defiance, ya know?
The other day he asks me what I'm eating. So I say "grapes". He opens his mouth for some and I go get them. He says, "you know, if you'd've said, 'get your own grapes', that would have been fun. I probably would have forgotten about the grapes and gotten the flogger..."
So last night he says to me, "Go plate me up some dinner." I look him in the eye and say, "You know where the plates are." He leans over and whispers in my ear, "Yes, and I know where your as* and the flogger are as well. Now, will you, PLEASE, go get my dinner?"
So I'm thinking, alright, I got it! It's playful, we're both laughing. Later that night, right before bedtime, he gets done lifting and he says, "oh, man, look how f***ing cut I am!" (totally joking, he is a total science geek, LOL). So I say, "what was that, honey? 'Look how f***ing GUT you are'?"
In my defense, I only meant to think that. I didn't realize I had said it until he I saw the look on his face and then I couldn't stop laughing! 
He just looks at me and chuckles and says, "oh, you are asking for it, aren't you, girl? well, you're gonna get it tonight, don't worry."
It was quite a fun and satisfactory spanking. And proud I am that I suppressed the urge to take a nip at him during our customary post-spanking, uh, oral activity. I figure I gotta save something for next time, right? 
"It was something magic out of something frightening. That's how I live my life, I take it as it comes. In my mind I see the rocking horse inside the tree." -Sara Evans
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Gypsygirl
New member
Username: Gypsygirl
Post Number: 5
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 12:08 pm: |
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I think it's the difference to actually being a Brat and acting the Brat. If your Top knows why you're doing it (and they do tend to know) where's the harm? He'll soon let you know if it goes beyond funny/acceptable/turn on. If it falls into the category of minor role play and you both like it.......... |
Victoria_wood
New member
Username: Victoria_wood
Post Number: 1
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 08:37 am: |
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Hi all,
I think a key difference is between those into spanking who are submissive and those into spanking who aren't. In general, submissives do not brat, but I think those who are more along the lines of non-submissive masochists, such as myself, enjoy bratting and do it to show that we aren't submissive.
And of course I agree with everything everyone else said about the difference b/w light-hearted fun bratting and disrespectful, annoying, defiance. Why would anyone want to play with the latter?
Cheers,
Victoria
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Otter
New member
Username: Otter
Post Number: 24
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 09:38 am: |
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***I think a key difference is between those into spanking who are submissive and those into spanking who aren't. In general, submissives do not brat, but I think those who are more along the lines of non-submissive masochists, such as myself, enjoy bratting and do it to show that we aren't submissive.***
This is an interesting thought. I think this is one of the problems I have had getting used to the idea that bratting is okay. I am submissive and it seemed like disobedience. There was always bratty stuff running through my head to say or do, but I wouldn't do them because it seemed disrespectful.
Then my HOH reminded me that he has a sense of humor. Oh, yeah!  Guess I forgot.
I told him a few times what I thought of doing and he said, "That would've been hilarious. I'd have whipped your a**, but I wouldn't have been mad."
For us, it is not a way to show that I am not submissive (because, as I said, I am) but only that that doesn't mean I have no spirit. I bend to his will, he doesn't and would never try to break me. I may be submissive but that doesn't mean that I don't also like to be subdued once in awhile.
Wow, you guys are giving me a lot of great stuff to think about! Once I get a few minutes with my journal, I won't be hogging so much of the posting time, LOL!
"It was something magic out of something frightening. That's how I live my life, I take it as it comes. In my mind I see the rocking horse inside the tree." -Sara Evans
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Fanny
Moderator/Spanking Aficionado
Username: Fanny
Post Number: 2152
Registered: 05-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 09:51 am: |
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My opinion......everyone has their tolerance of "bratting" and who you do it with makes all the difference. Playing around with your regular partner is one thing, because you know where you can go with him/her. I don't appreciate at all people who brat in public to get attention or push their way into someone elses area by trying to "outbrat". Especially when it comes to putting someone else down and name calling. It is SO unattractive!
Queen of Innocence
"Well behaved woman rarely make history"
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Bethie
Moderator/Spanking Aficionado
Username: Bethie
Post Number: 732
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 04:16 pm: |
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I'm submissive but I also brat like crazy sometimes. It's playful, fun, and never mean-spirited or disrespectful of Dan, but it's still bratting and I'm still the subbie. In fact, it's part of the fun of being a subbie. 
I've always felt like the people who do the mean, obnoxious bratting are just desperate. I'm not sure what they're desperate for, but they don't seem to mind pushing everyone's buttons to get it.
Sometimes I think they just want someone to take them in hand and make them submit. Which sort of misses the point of submission.
To me they're like the real pushy flirty types of the vanilla world. I've met some catty women in both worlds and they seem quite a bit alike actually. I don't know, but they're annoying in either case and they never seem to realize that they're going about it the wrong way. |
Bethie
Moderator/Spanking Aficionado
Username: Bethie
Post Number: 733
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 04:22 pm: |
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One more point, Dan's the only one I'm submissive to; the rest of the world...not so much!
Sorry, had to throw that one in before a new wave of emails started coming in asking if my dom will let me come out and play with them...that's a NO btw.  |
Otter
New member
Username: Otter
Post Number: 29
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 07:26 pm: |
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I think the pushy, overdone types (whether it's bratting or flirting or whatever) are just drama queens. They come off like little pubescent girls to me. I mean, come on, grow up, everyone doesn't *always* have to be looking at you and everything is not the end or the beginning of the world!
"It was something magic out of something frightening. That's how I live my life, I take it as it comes. In my mind I see the rocking horse inside the tree." -Sara Evans
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Victoria_wood
New member
Username: Victoria_wood
Post Number: 2
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 11:17 am: |
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"This is an interesting thought. I think this is one of the problems I have had getting used to the idea that bratting is okay. I am submissive and it seemed like disobedience."
It's a central part of the punishment fetish to be punished for disobedience. So maybe that is why I like to brat.
Cheers,
Victoria
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Redhinney
Advanced Spanko
Username: Redhinney
Post Number: 398
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 11:33 am: |
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Bethie,
You hit the nail on the head as far as I'm concern. I am very much a subbie as well but only to Bill never with any one else or in other parts of my life. My employees think I'm in charge and they ar amazed that Bill can handle it (if they only knew the truth) I can brat with Bill because it's playful not done on purpose (ok maybe sometimes) and it's natural. I don't have to try to make the scene it just happens.
I agree that there are a lot of brats out there who just want soemone to take control. I feel bad for them just think how horrible there life is not getting thier needs met so they have to act out every chance they get hoping someone will say enough.
Love can't always be seen or heard but will always be felt with your heart
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Bethie
Moderator/Spanking Aficionado
Username: Bethie
Post Number: 738
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 02:27 pm: |
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Red, one of the best things about being a subbie for me is knowing no matter what the day brings and what kind of crap lands on my plate at work, I can go home and hand control over to Dan. It's like "Whew! I'm glad that's over," and get back to myself. On the really bad days I'll grumble a little, he'll pet me, and be sympathetic and that always makes it all better.
Most of my jobs have been at the management level, too, so when I go to work, I really work! |
Wolfie
Moderator/Spanking Aficionado
Username: Wolfie
Post Number: 1545
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 06:49 pm: |
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Amen sista's, youse preachin to the choir! 
If you live to be a hundred, I want to live to be a hundred minus one day, so I never have to live without you.
Grow old with me, the best is yet to be.
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Sarahsbrat
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Username: Sarahsbrat
Post Number: 22
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2006 - 06:33 am: |
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I have to agree with Bethie on this. Bratting for the sake of getting spanked is the lowest of the low. I know three people who do it and they drive us all mad, mad I tell you.
Not just any naughty brat...Sarahsbrat
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