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Buenaventura
New member
Username: Buenaventura
Post Number: 6
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 04:54 pm: | 
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Bethie,don,t know where you should put this but I,ve been browsing through different spankers blogs and seem to run up on quite a bit of depressed spankies.Is there a relationship between the two?Does spanking cure or alleviate depresion.Also have seen references to spanking helping cellulite.Could I put an ad in the paper promising to illiminate cellulite???Ha Ha.Just musings. |
Bethie
Moderator/Spanking Aficionado
Username: Bethie
Post Number: 805
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 05:29 pm: |
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Buenaventura, I started you your own thread so you could get some responses to your questions.
I don't think being a spanko has much to do with depression. I know quite a few happy and well-adjusted spankos but I know some depressed ones as well and it's about the same ratio as my vanilla friends. Have you tried reading any of the spanko couple's blogs? Just like in so many other communities, spankos are happier when in a good relationship.
Being kinky can make it a little harder sometimes to find acceptance and if you're reading the blogs of the singles or frustrated spankos, that might be more prevalent there.
I don't think spanking can cure depression any more than any other rush of endorphins that temporarily eleviate the feeling of being down. It's a good feeling for the moment but if one is truly depressed, it won't help in the long run.
It's a totally different situation if you're in a normal funk and feeling kinda grumpy. A good spanking might set your world right again, but that's really stress relief and not a cure for depression.
As for the cellulite, I have no idea. |
Fanny
Moderator/Spanking Aficionado
Username: Fanny
Post Number: 2265
Registered: 05-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, May 06, 2006 - 07:25 pm: |
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I want to add a word about the subject. I find that most spankos are passionate people more in tune with their emotions and feelings. I really don't think the ratio of people and depression is higher, but I think spankos are less likely to deny their feelings. So....maybe more spankos are willing to admit and seek help than someone more in denial about emotions. Any logic in that at all? (ramblings of Fanny)
Queen of Innocence
"Well behaved woman rarely make history"
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Subbie
New member
Username: Subbie
Post Number: 9
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 07:07 am: |
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No I don't think that it matters if we are spankos or not, Just look at the different people right here in this group, we are all different from each other, some married some not, with kids , without them, dfferent jobs, ages etc.
I do think Fanny is on to something about us being a little more open about our emotions, my two cents worth |
Shylah
Advanced Spanko
Username: Shylah
Post Number: 863
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 07:57 am: |
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Lots of spankos get depressed because they are not able to persue the spanking lifestyle. Those of us that have been able to do that still have our moments of depression but the ones that are "stuck" in a vanilla relationship have such strong urges for spanking but are unable to give or receive.
That depressed me before I was able to have a real life relationship.
Take my heart and soul. But please don't step on it, it breaks easily.
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Gypsygirl
Advanced Spanko
Username: Gypsygirl
Post Number: 254
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 08:44 am: |
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This is a difficult subject to dissect. There are people that are prone to depressions and they can sink into a clinical depression over something without really knowing what the cause is. There are others that get depressed over their individual lives but I would tend to classify that as being 'down' or being frustrated rather than anything clinical, and normally once the situation is resolved the 'depression' goes away. That's my opinion only of course.
I agree with Bethie in that I don't believe that spanking can cure depression and recently I read a report somewhere (I'll try to find it) that mentioned a 'doctor' doing a study on the subject by continually caning a group of women several times a day for a period of a couple of weeks and publishing his results ignoring the fact that the endorphins released from such constant punishment would give a false indication of being cured. I think it was in Russia and the general consensus was that here was someone getting his jollies and being paid for it under the guise of a government funding.
With the question of a lot of spankos being depressed, I don't think that one thing has to do with the other but rather, like Fanny mentioned, spankos are more open in their outlook, having perhaps struggled to come to terms with their personal needs or just because it's in their nature, and are more disposed to discuss all aspects of their life.
I foresee spankings........LOTS of spankings
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Loki
New member
Username: Loki
Post Number: 3
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 12:54 pm: |
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I know my wife is cranky if she has not been spanked enough and when she gets a good spank she is mello and happy. I think maybe the depressed ones could just be lacking in spanks barring other reasons for thier depression. |
Buenaventura
New member
Username: Buenaventura
Post Number: 8
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 01:35 pm: |
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Gypsygirl:does that mean that with enough daily endorphins you can keep depression in check?
On the other hand does being punished for you imaginary or real sins elliminate the sense of guilt that some depresives have?
No feedback on cellulite??Not as serious a subject but if true we could elliminate cellulite in our time.Ha Ha And add to the roles of spankos!! |
Gypsygirl
Advanced Spanko
Username: Gypsygirl
Post Number: 256
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 03:34 pm: |
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Buenaventura. No it doesn't (and I'm no expert on this) but surely it would just be covering up the real problem. What happens when the punishment stops? The depression still exists!
I'm sure someone wrote that they have less cellulite since they incorporated spanking into their lives so you may very well have a point on that one.
I foresee spankings........LOTS of spankings
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Fanny
Moderator/Spanking Aficionado
Username: Fanny
Post Number: 2267
Registered: 05-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 03:47 pm: |
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I will tell you that I went through a major depression about 15 years ago. Real depression (as opposed to just feeling down) usually means you lose interest in just about everything. I was very numb at that time, and spankings would NOT have helped. Depresssion is a condition that needs to be treated by a doctor.
Queen of Innocence
"Well behaved woman rarely make history"
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Victoria_wood
Spanko
Username: Victoria_wood
Post Number: 72
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 04:48 pm: |
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"Gypsygirl:does that mean that with enough daily endorphins you can keep depression in check?"
I'm no expert either, but I would say that it may be the case. I have several friends who swear that running/exercise is what keeps their depression in check. So why not regular spankings? If the symptoms are gone, then so is the depression, right? Or the reason to be concerned about the underlying depression is gone anyway.
Cheers,
Victoria
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Tammynx
Advanced Spanko
Username: Tammynx
Post Number: 433
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 05:02 pm: |
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I only run if I'm being chased!!  Spankings are so much better!! |
Blistering_blonde
Spanko
Username: Blistering_blonde
Post Number: 55
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 05:25 pm: |
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LOL i was the one who mentioned a smoother rear and lose of cellulite since the spankings started .....and NO i have not changed my habits ..unless you count jumping up and down after repeating the OW OW OW OW chant ...but yes its gone ..i have NONE now on my rear ..LOL and in order to market it ...well now just advertise it as .....
REMEMBER YOUR YOUTH , RELIVE THOSE HOT MOMENTS IN LIFE AND KEEP YOUR REAR SPANKING FRESH WITH THIS NEW YET OLD INVENTION ....COME ON LADIES LINE UP FOR A GOOD SOUND TIME ..AND CHASE AWAY THAT CELLIULITE !!!!
oh YES it would work ...have any of you ever gone in for a celuilite spa treatment ..THEY BEAT YOUR LEGS ...and it does force the fat to move and smooth down ....I know this for a fact ...I learned those treatments in school ..and they do work ...
TIPPING A COFFEE CUP for a toast ..
So to the SMOOTH bottoms of spanko's everywhere ...now we have a REASON to keep our butts red on days we have been good .
can you imagion ..OH HUNNY I NEED MY TREATMENT as you rip down your pants and sprawl across his lap... |
Bethie
Moderator/Spanking Aficionado
Username: Bethie
Post Number: 808
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 05:30 pm: |
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The problem with using anything to mask the symptoms of depression is that the cause doesn't go away. If you don't treat the cause, then it's still hiding in the background waiting to come to the forefront at the first chance.
No matter what method is being used to keep the depression at bay, medicines, spanking, running, it's only treating the obvious symptoms until the depression can be worked though.
Suppose someone who uses running to keep their depression in control sprains an ankle or gets a stress fracture? Then what do they do?
Keeping depression under control while you treat the actual cause of the depression is a typical course of treatment and it works for most people. But just treating the symptoms without treating the real problem is just courting disaster.
As for cellulite, mine is on my thighs and no one is treating that with spanking, thank you very much!
(Message edited by bethie on May 07, 2006) |
Otter
Spanko
Username: Otter
Post Number: 68
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 02:21 am: |
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I think it depends on if your depression has a real world cause or is biochemical. For me, depression is caused by brain chemical spikes and crashes. The cure is keeping away from my addicting substances (sugar, other allergic foods, tobacco, alcohol) and keeping a steady more natural flow of endorphins going. One of the ways I maintain that gentle, natural level is exercise. Another is spanking.
Now if you are depressed because your kid just died or your husband just left you, then yeah, you need to work through those feelings.
If, however, your depression is caused by low beta endorphins then keeping the depression at bay with a steady stream of endorphins is not just treating the symptoms, it is also treating the cause.
I also notice less cellulite since we started spanking, both on my thighs and butt.
"It was something magic out of something frightening. That's how I live my life, I take it as it comes. In my mind I see the rocking horse inside the tree." -Sara Evans
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Victoria_wood
Spanko
Username: Victoria_wood
Post Number: 73
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 09:48 am: |
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Don't medications work by levelling out the biochemicals in the brain? If so, this can probably be done to some extent naturally. Grief is another matter, although exercise and spanking probably help that too. Just my opinion... I'm just making this up!!
Cheers,
Victoria
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Buenaventura
New member
Username: Buenaventura
Post Number: 10
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 04:06 pm: |
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Gee thanks y,ll good to get so much imput this a great place to be.
Now Dr. Buenaventura to the rescue!! |
Redhinney
Advanced Spanko
Username: Redhinney
Post Number: 421
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 08:23 pm: |
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I think part of being mature adult is knowing when to seek medical attentiona dn when to pull yourself up and do soething good for yurself no matter what that is; running spanking running after spanking or running before a spanking. The point being is true deprssion can be treated succesfully with medications and for many people spankos or not medication is the only answer. for others who expereince a saddness than maybe a spanking is good for them. I know when I am really sad there is nothing like a good session of spanking and sex but it takes a lot of work on Bill's part to get me in the mood.
As far as grief I know from personally experence (no not when my parents died I was way to young to realize what grief was) but when my only child died within 10 days of being born. There was no amount of spanking or sex that would have gotten me over that. Heart ache and saddnes from grief takes time to heal and as I have said to many friends, my heart will never heal but it will scab over and at different times life will allow that scab to remain and at other times life makes that scab bleed again. Grief is a hard one to pin point at least for me.
Love can't always be seen or heard but will always be felt with your heart
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Fanny
Moderator/Spanking Aficionado
Username: Fanny
Post Number: 2279
Registered: 05-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 08:35 pm: |
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Red, my heart is with you. This is the point I was trying to make. Anyone who has not experienced true depression does not seem to understand it. With depression it is hard enough to even get out of bed let alone to go running or playing.
I had a very similar experince as you, I lost a son shortly after he was born, and it took a very long time to learn to live with it. I will never say "get over it" because you don't. Within time and with medical help I did re-establish a life.
Queen of Innocence
"Well behaved woman rarely make history"
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Victoria_wood
Spanko
Username: Victoria_wood
Post Number: 76
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Monday, May 08, 2006 - 10:14 pm: |
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Yes, you are both right. It is hard to understand depression if you have never experienced it. I know it's not just being sad and people can't just snap out of it. I am grateful that I don't battle it myself, but have many friends who do.
The spanking and running probably just helps balance out moods and slight depression, not serious clinical depression.
Cheers,
Victoria
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Otter
Spanko
Username: Otter
Post Number: 70
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 12:10 am: |
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That's true, I don't have true clinical depression. What I have is closer to bipolar and, as I said, it is caused by crashes and spikes. The times when I am down, are depressive but it's not like I can't get out of bed, it's more a hateful, negative, suicidal type of depression. When the feelings are biochemically enhanced, they become very intense.
I did have mild Post Partum Depression after my son was born and that was much more of a "deadening" of feelings.
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"It was something magic out of something frightening. That's how I live my life, I take it as it comes. In my mind I see the rocking horse inside the tree." -Sara Evans
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