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Buenaventura
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Post Number: 193
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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post

Well guys you,ll asked so here it is.WOW what an incredible experience.What can I say.First for three days we,ve been on messenger constantly office home hours a day just talking about every aspect of spanking.I asked her for a list of reasons why she thought she needed a spanking and she came up with some minor offenses that made me laugh like biting her nails cracking her knuckles not be orderly enough in her house etc.I told her that I had a kitchen spoon and the big bad bathbrush.She wasn,t impressed(she is now)She playfully made fun saying was I maybe to old did I have enough stamina to lastand as she planned of course I thought ok lady I,ll show you.(we both showed each other)when we got to the hotel it wasn,t as isolated as I would have liked but didn,t get any complaints(I thought we would what with her wailing and the sound of the hand smacks(they,re really scandalous)and the belt which she had said was her favorite(and I kind of looked down)was pretty loud too.She has a very strong personality and we had agreed that once in the room she would obey me in everything.It started out smoothly enough cause she came late for the date and I had told her that was one thing I really hated(she did it on purpose of course)So I said we would start with a warmup hand spanking on the panties.I pulled her over a low table and sat alongside of her pulled up her panties she protesting and started smacking her.Moderately hard and I thought very loud but it didn,t faze her overly so after a couple of mins.of that I pulled down her panties she protesting and trying to keep them up and picked up the tempo a little trying to cover both cheeks and spanking a little harder though I felt that her protests were were not very strong.As I put a little more uumph progressivly into the hand spanking she was getting a pretty pinkbut I thought goddam she was right she can take it.Hell that girls a champion.I said now we,ve finished with the being late spanking lets get the kitchen spoon out and pulled her panties off completly.(she tried to keep them up but no way.)I started to realize that it,s a good thing I,m inpretty good shape cause I was obviously going to have to excert myself.I walked her over to the bed pulled her across my lap pulled up her skirt and started to give her the spoon ha that brought a reaction she started protesting and squirming and trying to get away from it saying stop please no more I don,t like the spoon etc.i said say a color and she said no as I finally started to understand that she could really take it.So with the spoon (it,s not really a spoon but a wooden stirrer)I started to paysome attention to the sweet spot.That got a reaction ha she squirmed and jumpede and I was eally starting to have a good time and realize how much the spanker gets out of all this.when she was pretty damn red I thought ok corner time and told her to go in the corner and as soon as she got there I told her but take off your skirt first.She said no so I said ok let,s keep the spanking going for a while then.She said no ok I,ll take off the skirt.Damn this obedience from such a strong woman was really turning me on.I bsat and contemplated her red cheeks for a while and told why she deserved this spamling getting more and more into the role.Then after about 10 mins.I said well are you ready for the strap as I knew it was her favorite she said yes.i placed 2 pillows on the bed had her lay across them and then startedpulling off my belt slowly for effect.She looked nervously at me wow was this ever fun!!then I started giving her the strap Jesus it surprised me the different noises with the strap the hiss as it goes though the air the loud smack it makes as it hits I was lomging to get to the bathbrush but wanted to give her as much of the belt as she could take.Damn she can really take it.By this time I was also getting pretty horny and wondering when to start getting sexy.I sat and consoled her for a while and said it,s about time for the bathbrush.She said no please no and I started playing with her cheeks dippimg between and going down to heaven and then back again to cheeks toying with her teasing and getting her really turned on.That brought on her first climax.I,ll finish this later guys I,m getting writers cramp.(If ya,ll are interested).
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Fanny
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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 08:46 pm:   Edit Post

My mistake, Buenaventura, I thought this was to be only a disciplinary spanking. No wonder you scheduled 3 hours.
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Ladygator2904
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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post

OF COURSE we are interested! Need I say more?
A woman`s heart may be filled with an ocean of secrets but mine have all been released and I have a sore bottom to prove it!
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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post

Sounds like a fun time was had by all!

Hmmm I should probably put this in the Real Life Section. Okay, put on your seat belts, I'm about to move this thread!
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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post

Thread moved successfully!

Congrats, Buena, you're the first person to have a thread here!

(Message edited by Bethie on October 07, 2006)
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Buenaventura
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Posted on Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post

I,ll try not to bore you guys and make it to long.Then I picked up the bath brush and started to carress her cheeks with it.I.d talked about itenough so when she saw it she stared saying noFrankie with your hand please not the brush.I,ve had enough.So I said tell me a color yellow red.Talk to me.She said no pssed my hand over her cheeks and raised my hand brought it down and SMACK
damn she got as stiff as a board wow you could see and and feel through the brush how much that hurt.I rubbed it for a while and got ready for the second one.Rubbed her other cheek brought my arm up and put a little more uuumph in it damn I could almost feel it too.(almost)she shivered and put her head on her hands and waited.And I thought hell I hit myself a lovetap on the hand with that thing and there was no way in the world that I,d do it twice.It really stung like hell. My admiration for her increased with each spank.I started increase the force of each spank but slower cause I knew that that was REAL SPNKING.she squirmed and trembled and put her hands behind her and I,d say put them back she would and I,d spank her again not really understanding her completely but felt like a couple having the same fantasy.I had taken off her top and bra (sorry I forgot to tell you about that)in the middle of all this.I started playing with her and completely forgot spanking for a while Since it,s unrelated to spanking I,ll leave that part out but to suffice it to say that it was really an erotic spanking but to me it seamed like an honest to goodness punishment spanking but for me I should have head some real crime to punish.She goaded me into hand spanking her again(yeah right goaded)and I thought ok you,re so tireless and ended up giving her the best one of the day(the brush was heavier) but that hand spanking felt like a really spanking with a different kind of connection.I,m trying to put my feelings into this so you guys can analize me and give me some feadback.(My pals in the den)We eventually were intimate again The hand spanking turned us on for the last time and we fell into talking about the experience.I don,t know if it was cause she finally had a spanker in Guatemala but she said that I didn,t do too bad for a novice(that earned her a couple of good smacks on the rear)and we dressed slowly talking all the time and left and drove back to our parting of the ways(until next week I think.Thanks for reading al this stuff and there it was lost my virginity and I owe a lot to what I,ve learned here in the den.thanks a lot guys!!
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Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post

I'm so glad this went the way you wanted. Sounds like there could be more??

What a great time you had!! She must have one tough butt!!
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Buenaventura
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Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post

Deffintly Tammy she called me this morning to thank me and it,ll probably be every weekend with maybe getting away for spanking weekends.I,ve got to develop my tecnique and get some instruments.In the market place here they still sell a lot of stuff for cowboys like riding whips (I think they call them quirts in english)but I want to find a strap instead of my belt(though it was pretty effective).So I,m pretty happy about the way things are going.
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Buenaventura
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Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post

By the way any hints from the tops out there would really be appreciated.
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Ladygator2904
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Posted on Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks for sharing your experience Buenavetura. It sounds like what I call a magical, Fairy tale weekend. The one where ladies wish would last all night. Its kind of you to want to purchase more toys. I am sure she will repay you with gratitude
A woman`s heart may be filled with an ocean of secrets but mine have all been released and I have a sore bottom to prove it!
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Weasel
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Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post

Dreams DO come true! Sounds like you had a great time and she did too. You could direct her to write a "script" for a session, that might help you get a focus on what her desires are. Give you a chance to "grade" her work, and give her a naughty schoolgirl session instead of her script (which of course you now save for later...)
Good luck on your journey with your lucky new lady!
Some day you'll spank me... er thank me for this!
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Ma_vie_en_rose
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Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post

The only thing I'd be worried about with your suggestion weasel, is that, were I the girl, I'd be nervous enough submitting something that's essentially the outline of a fantasy that having it graded, even jokingly so and determined "unsatisfactory" could be enough to possibly shame me into not doing it again.

Maybe that's me ^^;. I'm slightly neurotic.
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Buenaventura
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Posted on Sunday, October 15, 2006 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post

Well we,ve been talking every day and she has this annoying habit of leaving me hanging in the middle of a chat and when she comes back on always has an excuse.I,ve been trying to be a good sport about it until last night when I said to hell with this I,m telling her off.She inmediately asked me if this was going to make her spanking more severe and I said to myself UH HUH she,s motivating me with something that really irritates me.Good girl.I told her we have to correct this fault cause if she,s that way with me she,s probably that way with everyone.(either way I win)So now I,m highly motivated to give her the kind of spanking she needs(and deserves)I have my new toys to try out so it looks like tuesday the day.
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Tammynx
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Posted on Monday, October 16, 2006 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post

Good luck with Tuesday!! Sounds like your really motivated and have all the "tools" you need. :-)
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Buenaventura
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post

Well guys whata session we had today!!I started by sitting her down and telling her why she was being punished.I asked her if she left everybody hanging the way she had me on messenger.She said no and I said aah ok then you were just disrespecting me she backtracked and tried to make excuses but I went on to the next point.And one after the other explained why she should be punished.She protested and I told her the more she protested the worse it would be.As I sat down along side of her her face mirrored her fear as I had been very stern with her.I pulled her over my lap she protesting and started handspanking her over her skirt warming her up.She started relaxing thinking it was going to be easier then she had thought.She was wrong.I pulled her skirt up and she had a beautiful tanga on.i stated slapping her butt a little harder and faster spreading the glow up and down trying to hit as much of the surface as I could paying a lot of attention to the sweet spot.She started jumping and kicking and I could see I was getting through to her.I continued for about 15 mins.and when she was pink all over I pulled her panties off and then started spanking in ernest putting lots of uumph into it.She was moaning and protesting so I thought why not give her something to protest about?!I stood her up and told her to take off her skirt and protesting all the time she did But as soon as she had it off and was becoming more obedient I said don,t stop there take off your blouse and while saying no she started unbottoning it then the bra and she was naked.Then I pulled out the chicote.A chicote is a small flexible riding whip about two and a half feet long.(one of my new toys)I placed her next to the bed and told her to stand straight and put her head on the bed.When she complied I started whipping her butt.What a wonderful little instrument it is.I ledt beautiful red line that I tried to place closly together up and down her behind.When she was howling and begging I stepped up the pace taking a little off the force but increasing the speed till it was about one every second.I keptthat up for about 5 mins.rubbing her bottom now and then until I thought she was getting to her limit.It was corner time.I stood her in the corner making sure that she had her hands on her head and didn,t slouch.Then asked her what she wanted to drink.I ordered a beer for myself and a coke for her and kept talking to her explaining why she was in this predicament.She wanted out of the corner but I swatted her every time she changed positions or relaxed.Finally the drinks came and I let her out of the corner and we lounged on the bed I comforting her and getting her prepared for the next part.Have to finish this tomorrow ya,all cus the truth is after we were finished I was pretty much tired out so I,m going to bed and I,ll get back and finish in the morning.
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Prissietl
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post

WOW Buenaventura, I can't wait to hear the rest!!
Once a princess always a princess
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Tammynx
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post

I can't wait to hear the rest either!!

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Buenaventura
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post

Well out came the bamboo,I.d been to the market place and they had all kinds of bamboo of different lengths and thicknesses I was completely ignorant about this cus ISho,d just seen the ones they show in the spanking clips and of course what i used to fish with.They sold them in bunches of 10 but as this was just an experiment I bought one about 2 meters long and at the base about the thickness of my pinkie.Shoulf have boughtthe 10 cus it only cost 15 cents but ignorance.Got home and cut it sown to usable length and that,s what I took to my session.I stood her at the end of the bed with her hands on the bed and remenbering the clips told her I was going to give her 12 strokes.I whipped it through the air a few times and the sound was impressive(she thought so too)and I thought i,ve got to do this slowly.I lined up on her reddening cheeks touched it to her butt and let fly.I tried a medium force stroke but it didn,t seem to phase her to much I told her to count and she said one and I put a little more into the next stroke.That got a better reaction but still not what I expected.I thought damn these things aren,t what they,re made out to be.Shhe,d said two and I really put something into the next and almost broke the damn thing.Too flimsy.Anyway we only got to 11 when it was obvious that the bamboo wasn,t going to last and I promised myself I,d buy the 10 next week and a little thicker.I put a lot into thelast stroke and splintered the cane.Notas impressive as I thought but a learning experience.I,d already started running the water in the bath cause I wanted to experiment with spanking on wet skin as I,d read in the den.I took her and the bathbrush into the bathroom and we slowly gotinto the fairly hot waterand started playing around (By the way guys I,m not going to describe the sex in this missive but it was an orgasm filled afternoon)After awhileI thought she was ready for the brish which shemd hated from the first session but I was going to do it differently this time.I told her to put her butt over the edge of the tub and hands on the floor.That presented her cheeks in perfect postion so I gave her the first stroke medium force to not scare to much.I waited a few seconds and then said how many are we going to give you baby? She was mute at this point so I said a dozen and you count them off.I smacked her fairly hard on the nextone and waited for it to sink in she said two and I kept it up with varying force always waiting gor 5 to 10 seconds between blows and talkingto her constantly,She was takingit well so once in a while I,d put some extra uumph into it so she couldn,t get comfortable knowing what the next one would be like. When I,d finished her cheeks were now quite red and she had a few welts from the chicote running around the side of her hips from when she,d tried to avoid the strokes.We driedeach other off and went back to the bed and I started handspanking her again intermixed with lot,s of sexplay that I won,t go into.These were very hard hand spanks cause she was well adapted now and could take more or less what I dished out.So I got the chicote and started whipping her fairly softly but very fast.Her bottom was like a cherry and had splotchy bruises in a coupleof places.I kepyup the pace until she finally said yellow(I thought she never would)this was our first yellow of the afternoon and very satisfying.Well guysto cut this short from then on for the rest of the afternoon itwas sex andspankingwith me trying for more yellows which I got eventually 3 yellow and finally a red when she got to end of her resistance.A really wonderful afternoon and looking forward to the next.
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Prissietl
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post

WOW!!She's a Lucky Girl!
Once a princess always a princess
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Weasel
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post

wtg BV!I bet she's right prompt on answering your messages now!
Some day you'll spank me... er thank me for this!
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Buenaventura
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Posted on Wednesday, October 18, 2006 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post

She sure is Weasel like greased lightning.Says it,ll probably last at least a couple of days.HA HA
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Prissietl
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Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post

Maybe she learned her lesson. Bet you hope not! :-)

By the way, Weasel and I were talking about you yesterday...........were your ears burning!?!
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Weasel
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Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post


Some day you'll spank me... er thank me for this!
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Buenaventura
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Posted on Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post

wow two beautiful girls talking about me!! My cup runneth over.Thanks hope it was wanting a spanking like I just gave(and which I,m going to give on saturday again)I feel like I,ve found the real me and I,m goimg to squeeze out every drop.Drop me a line to chat.
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Prissietl
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Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post

Well its saturday BV, hope you update us tomorrow!! Please! :-)
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Ladygator2904
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Posted on Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post

Ditto what Princess said!
A woman`s heart may be filled with an ocean of secrets but mine have all been released and I have a sore bottom to prove it!
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Buenaventura
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Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 01:16 am:   Edit Post

Sorry ladies we had to change for tuesday or wednesday.Onlygood part is I,ll get to try my new toy that I,m having made special.A hand made leather strap.
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Buenaventura
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Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post

Well we had our third session.I,ll try to cut down the telling time.
When we got to the hotel I changed immediately and started tellingher how she disappointed meby still not giving me the consideration to tell me when she couldn,t answer me back in messenger.Also because she procrastinates she
,s always late for appointments and missed a Doctors appointment this week for her son because she was late.
So there was plenty of reason for her punishment.I started by pulling her over my knee with a warm up hand spanking not too hard but building up.Eventually pulled off her pants and she had a really nice teddy and panty combinacion that looked to nice to take off for a while.So I just spanked her on her panties for about 10 mins.Then thinking in sequence I took off her panties and leaving the teddy on stretched her across the big king-sized bed took out the chicote(remember the flexible riding whip?)I really like the chicote cause it makes no noise at all and instead of full strokes You do very rapid short strokes that have a buildup of heat thats really impressive and leave her really well marked.I did this for a good 10 mins, and then the lunch came that we had ordered and I gave her a break.We talke about everything during lumch and when we finished I looked at the rolling table that lunch had come on and thought whata great spanking platform.Suiting actions to thoughts I pulled her over to the table had her grab one end and double over the other.She was inperfect position to continue.I took out the new strap that I,d had made a real wide long leather strap that in the end made to much noise to use for too much time.Sounded much worse than it really was but coundn,t use as effectivly as I would have liked.Decided to change for the shorter strap that didn,t make as much noise but was very stingy.Eventually I went back to the chicote to finish off a good 20 mins, over the table and put her in the corner promising that we,d play for a while after the corner,She hates the corner andprotested every once in a while which only earned her a few whacks with the dreaded bath brush that I brought out for the first time.When I took her out of the corner she was ready.The next hour I won,t describe in detail so as not to wound any sensabilities out there but it was really wonderful sex.I,ll finish in a little whil kids.
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Prissietl
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Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post

YOU GO BV!!!!!!!!!
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Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post

Sounds like you have really found what you were looking for!! I'm happy for you.

I can't wait to hear the rest!!
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Fanny
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Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post

It appears you have enough information to write your own step by step book, Buenaventura
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Buenaventura
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Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post

Well Fanny it,s amazimg how much I,ve learned from you and all the others in the den.Still learding actually.
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Fanny
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Posted on Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post

When you stop learning and experiencing, what is there left? I've opened up to this group in a way that I would have never thought possible.
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Buenaventura
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Posted on Friday, October 27, 2006 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post

Well it was time to get back to the reason we were here.Sitting on the bed I pulled her over my knees and started in hand spanking with a purpose.You see we had talked about discipline spankings not having a safeword so I wanted to see how far I could take it after yellow.She,d said from the word go that she could take anything I could dish out and that was kind of a challenge.When she,s bugging me on messenger she calls me a sweet old guy and that kind of thing.HA Sweet old guy huh!! I,d show her who,s a sweet old guy.After a long handspanking I gotout the chicote and decided she would say uncle before I was through.I started swishing that thing down slowly at first then faster and faster till it was a blur.She started twisting and turning but the nice thing about the chicote is that even when she twists away I still catch her ass even when she,s facing me.It,s relentless!I didn,t have to put aa lot of oomph into it before she started protesting NO STOP NO MORE PLEASE etc.Sweet old guy huh??She finally said yellow and I said remember what we agreed to no colors I,ll decide when you,ve had enough.She gulped and turned over I said as soon as you cry I,ll stop but she has never cried and says,s she never has from a spanking.Part of my plan was just that to get her to cry.I,d have considered it a triumph but it never happened.Eventually I gave it a rest and it was almost 3 hours now so we were getting to the end of our time.So I said well young lady it,s finishing up time and of course we,re going to finish wuth the bathbrush.(She thought I was going to forget the bathbrush)She said no please not the bathbrush I hate the bathbrush.I said this isn,tabout what you like (I,m relly into the role huh guys),Then we decided between us how many she said 10 I said no she said 20 I said ok.Of course I,ve never used the bathbrush with a lot of force(you don,t have to it,s criminal)So I started slowly a hard spank and maybe 15 seconds between them. The last 3 pretty hard to where she was dancing between spanks.When we were finished I hugged and petted her witch led of course to another session of play which took us up to checkout time.
Last night on messenger she showed me her bruised behind and then said HaHa I,ve been sitting comfortable all evening andI said DAMN I forgot the sweet spot.So now I have a plan for the next session.
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Posted on Friday, October 27, 2006 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post

Ohhh the sweet spot...thats going to make her dance!!
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Posted on Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post

well guys this one was different.We went to a different hotel lot bigger bed but didn,t have the huge bathtub I like so much in the other.To tell the truth I went this time thinking more about sex than spanking or more to the point thinking of erotic spanking.that,s the way it worked out and it was great sex but she really needed more than that.We talked about it today and she needs me to be serious when I,m spanking her.It,s not that I didn,t spank her hard enough but I should have been telling her about why she needed the spanking and what I expected from her as far as improvment.Next ones goingto bemuch more serious.i told her today ok no more sex just spanking and she said WHAT and what about all my orgasms.I said you,ll have to get them from the spanking(jokinly of course).She said NO NO now that you,ve taught me to have all those orgasms you can,t stop now.Of course I won,t but I,ll spank her little fanny off first.
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Posted on Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 01:07 am:   Edit Post

Boy she is a strong woman. I would have RAN from that bath brush! (and no im not kidding) enjoy it for all its worth BV .......i know you are!

As for the other part....come on give the girl what she wants you've spoiled her you can't take it away now!! ...and no i don't mean the spankings. :-)
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Posted on Monday, November 06, 2006 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post

Thats a great story. Thanks for sharing Buena.. hugs
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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 01:33 am:   Edit Post

The bath brush??? you evil, evil- wait, good story, LOL. Thanks for sharing!
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Posted on Tuesday, November 07, 2006 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post

thanks for the comments guys.Wasn,t going to post anymore about this but what the hellI,ll bring up to date on what,s happeming.Since that last one we,ve had 3 sessions one regular and two mini.The regular was was pretty good.As i,d plannedThe session started with a lecture about what she,d done that had to be corrected.Very severe lecture.I had to motivate my self to do it causeI,m pretty affable by nature and don,t usually ball people out but I knew this is what she needed.When I finally was ready to spank she was suitable chastised and I told her now get over my knee we,re going to fix this right now.She hesatantly came over and I said NOW raising my voice.I then pulled her over and started to hand spank her(which is the part I like the best)continuingto tell her how she had disapppçointed me.Then I got to the test!I stood her up and told her to get the hairbrush from the table.She blanched but walked slowly over to the table and picked up the brush saying aw come on Frank not the brush.I said PICK IT UP AND GET OVER HERE NOW.with autority!She jumped and came back with the brush I pulled her over my lap and pulled the skirt of her dress up and started spanking her slowly with the brush.(don,t know if all haibrushes are as hard as mine but she hates it)I carefully went from top to bottom of her cheeks covering every part of her ass.she squirmed and jumped and tried to get away but it was useless of course.she was very red by the time I thought that she was ready gor her first session in the corner.I pulled her uo and walked her over to the corner all of the time remonstrating about her faults.She tried to pull her skirt down and I told her don,t you dare do that and went over pulled her skirt up and tucked it into the top.All of this time she,s pleading with me to go easier on her.I turned a cold heart to her supplications and continued to tell her why she was in this fix.Eventually I took her out of the corner and stripped her naked told her to lay down on the bed on top of two pillows with her hands on the floor.It was chicote time!I love the chicote!!I started to bring it down on her ass not too hard but very fast(here is where I started getting away from the seious part that she likes and into the sexy part that I like)I rubbed her ass every once in a while and when her ass was very red I sat on the bed and started playing with her.Well that was the serious part. the rest was combined sex and spanking.So I,ll leave for nest time the 2 mini spankings in the park and sign off.
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Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post

lucky lady
A woman`s heart may be filled with an ocean of secrets but mine have all been released and I have a sore bottom to prove it!
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Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post

Hi Buenaventura, you are a very lucky guy. I'm Green with envy. She hasen't got a sister has she?} Sir Rex
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Posted on Wednesday, November 08, 2006 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post

Sorry Rex buit she,s the onlyone I could find here.Guatemala,s a very consevative country and I,m sure there are others but well hidden.I,m very happy to have her and need no more (Except for a Sweetie or two on line)
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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 01:03 am:   Edit Post

BV. I completely feel for you on the well hidden partner level. Tough as nails finding a girl sometimes, particularly a properly kinky one.
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Posted on Thursday, November 09, 2006 - 07:16 am:   Edit Post

I like that Rose "Properly kinky"
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Posted on Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 06:51 pm:   Edit Post

lol... just call me kinky (properly)
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Posted on Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 04:20 am:   Edit Post

For some reason, pulling out that phrase on it's own makes me think of a certain M. Poppins.

"Properly kinky in every way."

Maybe I should put it as my signature
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Posted on Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post

Well guys I haven,t wanted to bore you with all the details of our other sessions but we,ve had 3 more in hotels and 4 no 5 in a park.Get,s so I carry the hairbrush around with me everywhere I go.Difficult in warm weather every body asks me(cause I,m wearing a jacket just to carry the brush)you cold Frank??I can get away with it cause as I,m older and older people are always cold well hell you know what I mean.So beyond saying that the sessions in the hotels are getting better and better.I,ve learned to be very severe in my attitude when I,m spanking her(At least for the first hour)after that it,s just too much fun and I start laughing and being the real me.But the spankings are getting harder and harder as I find out what her true capacity is.(which is amazing)still haven,t reached it.If you all want to hear more about those I,ll tell ya but I wanted to tell you about the park spankings cause they,re so spontaneous(not really)We go strolling through the park to our favorite bench at the back and after talking and other things that you,re not interested in I get serious and start to remonstrate with her about what she,s been doing to deserve punishment.and looking carefully around I pull her over my knee pull out the trusty brush and address her ass with firmness and vigor(like that phrase).After the first couple of times when she,d get home she,d start making fun of me about how it didn,t hurt and so on.Last session no I,m making progrees cause she said she couldn,t sit comfortably so guess I,m learning.You guys with all your experience might think I,m going light on her but I swear I really do put some shoulder into it but she,s got a tough butt.I call her leather ass.Today we had a session in the park preparatory to tomorrow when were going to a new luxurious hotel where I,m going to give her hell.If you want to hear about it I,d be happy to tel all.The ongoing education of buenaventura.
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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post

IF we want to hear about it? Surely, you jest!!! I love your stories.. lol
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Posted on Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 10:23 pm:   Edit Post

Thanks LG tomorrow I,ll sit down and tell you about yesterday.A very notable day.This one had it all!
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Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 01:47 am:   Edit Post

Buenaventura,

I have really enjoyed reading your "hot tales." Too bad my husband isn't interested in reading. Everything he learned about spanking I had to tell him. Do you, or does ayone know any video's that would teach a man to do exactly what you learned here? I wait with baited breath to read your next chapter!

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Posted on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post

Well guys we,ve had 2 sessions since the last time.In the one last week I really wanted to take her close to her limits and was very serious about correcting her transgressions(I wish she,d be naughtier)We agreed that to take her farther after all the other spanking and after the sex we,d get dressed and I,d finish up with my trusty old bathbrush over her pants so she wouldn,t mark up so much (The bathbrush has an emblem on the back that if you hit hard enough can draw blood which of course I don,t want to do)we did and she got thirty of the hardest I,ve ever given her.Later in the car she said contemplativly I could take more.(Jesus I thought I wonder if I,m capable of giving a lot more)Any way yesterday was completely different from the beginning she was more vulnerable and I thought naaah it,s part of her game plan and tried to take her further.I started on her pants with the brush then pulled her over to the bed pulled her pants down hand spanked her for a while which is the best part for me.being very serious all the time as she likes. I could sense something different but decided that no it was part of her act.I then put her in the corner and told her why she was in so much trouble really getting into the role.Course I,m doing this for her cause you guys know me i,d rather be laughing and having fun .Anyway we finally after the first hour or so got into sex and forgot about spanking for a while.It was really great and getting better all the time.While talking later we talked about what we,d planned for the end to see if we could take her to her limit and she said she didn,t think she could. Course I took this as part of her usual game.Actually we ended up doing just another twenty with the brush she cried for the first time and I held her and comforted her for a long time.Later in the car we talked about it all and it turns out that she really couldn,t take any more.(My poor little leather butt has her limits after all)I,ll have to be more sensetive to this in the future.Part of buenaventuras learning process guys.
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Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post

After more than 2 weeks you guys might have thought I wasn,t spanking any more.Naaaah!Been spanking up a storm.
We just came back from a spanking holiday at the beach.Great place perfect for spanking with out worrying about noise.nobody for a hundred yards on either side of us.5 days of pure pleasure!
Took us over 7 hours to get there what with 4 and a half hours by car to Puerto Barrios.Then a small boat trip to Livingston.Then a taxi to the end of town(the jungle starts there)Then a small boat picks us up and took us the rest of the way to the house I,d rented from a friend.
As soon as we were installed and alone I started spanking and with food breaks and sex breaks and walks on the beach we did everything we,d wanted to do.I finally got to use the strap the way it was meant to be used full swing and loud enough to wake the dead(but unheard cause of our distance from anybody).The same with her loud protests also unheard and she could give free reign to what she felt.Squeals and shouts and crying we let everything hang out.Using a different tecnique with the bathbrush otk not as hard but very rapid builds up a lot of heat.By the 3rd. day she had 7 bruises and was hurting every time she sat down.I won,t go into orgasms more than to say She,s getting 4 different kinds of orgasms and you women complain about a womans lot.Give me a break.If I had that many orgasms I,d have a heart attack half way through and I,m not talking about the ones she gets just from the spanking.Any way we,ve been back for a day and I,m finally getting my legs back(my hands are still red)I,m waiting to see her ass to see how long the effect lasts(with her probably just a day)and looking forward to next friday.
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Posted on Monday, December 11, 2006 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post

Sounds like your trip was you'd hoped for. Glad to hear it!!
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Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post

Wow, it makes me envious. She may be the only spankee that you foumd in Guatemala but the scene sounds absolutely perfect for you both!Lucky her, lucky you!
A woman`s heart may be filled with an ocean of secrets but mine have all been released and I have a sore bottom to prove it!
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Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 08:57 am:   Edit Post

Hi y,all,Have stopped writing about regular spankings so as not to bore you.But yesterday was noteworthy so I thought I,d give it a mention.Our problem (if you want to call it a problem)is that I enjoy spanking too much to be really serious about them.I just see her ass and happiness seeps through meThe problem is she want serious and severe when I,m spanking her.My severity lasts till I,ve got her in the corner and she starts batting her eyes and wriggling her ass and my mind turns to other thingsI keep looking for an excuse to be serious and she finally gave me one.At the beginning of the week we had a date for 4 o,clock and she called to change it for 5,30.Then when a quarter to 6 rolled around and no show I called her cel.and got messages.Finally at 7.15 she called and said she,d be here at 7,30.When she got here she was laughing and telling me about what she,d been doing(baking cookies with all her female family and friends and when i asked why she hadn,t called she said she forgotI thought OK here,s my opportunity because it really does piss me off when somebody is inconsiderate with me.So I told her the next spanking was going to be punishment.She tried to talk me out of it but I thought I,m going to kill 2 birds with one stone satisfy her need for a punishment spanking and make sure it doesn,t happen again!Well yeaterday rolled around (the day of reckoning)she was apprehensive(with reason)We got to the motel and as soon as we walked in I changed my attitude and got very serious and started telling her again why she was going to be punished.I then bent her over the table and pulled her skirt up and started hand spanking her pretty hard(she says I have a very hard hand)then when I was ready I took out the crop.She hates the crop and she blanched and said no please not the crop.I remonstrated with her about why in Guatemala it was important to always let me know if she was going to be late so many dangerous things that could be happening.(Her best friend was shot in a car hijack just a month ago)Then I lay into her with the crop.I told her that I was going to give her 10 of every instrument I have and she started jumping around and begging after the 4th.I made her count them off and kept telling her why she needed this.after the crop I put her in the corner and kept talking (Frankly I have a hard time doing this but I knew it,s what turns her on)Then it was time for the bathbrush not the sexy way I,ve been using it but full swings and making her count them off.By this time she was howling and when I finished I put her in the corner again but my resolve was getting a little weak.I knew that for her I had to keep it up as much as I could so told her it was time for the strap.Bent her over the table again having stripped her down in the meantime to just her bra(don,t know why I stopped at the bra)and gave her a couple with the strap.The problem with the strap is it,s loud enough to wake the dead.Sounds like a gunshot.So I went back to the bathbrush and finished her off with that .She was crying now and I felt Hell that,s enough(it,s not really my thing this serious shit)Then I consoled her took her to bed and we started playing around and there,s no reason to get into the sexy part.When we discussed it later she was happy with the punishment but I told her it,s not something I want to do often.What the hell we,ll work it out.Merry Christmas everyone and happy spankings to you all.
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Posted on Saturday, December 23, 2006 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post

Great Post ! I might just copy it and paste it to hubbys email. He so lets me off lightly. Long Story :-) Merry Christmas back and a very healthy, happy New Year!
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Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 01:05 am:   Edit Post

Congratulations. GREAT stories. I hope well worth the wait. A great New Year to you.
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Posted on Saturday, January 06, 2007 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post

Hi y,all.Happy new year to all my pals in the den.We had a wonderful session today starting with a great breakfast at the motel got our favorite room with the triple size bathtub and bubble bath really good spanking and wonderful sex.But what I wanted to talk about about was the other day in the park.
We had had a discussion about her jealousy which really turns me off specially unfounded.She took it one step too far and I had brought the riding whip.So I laid her down on the park bench and over her pants gave her a very serious very hard spanking(or whipping I should say)All the time telling her really angrily that if she kept it up it could endanger the relationship.And I meant it.
Well this morning she told me that she went home and masturbated thinking about that whipping.After asking her more it turned out that what had turned her on wasn,t the whipping itself but my attitude while givng it to her.I told her hollywood actors get paid millions to transform their emotions whenever they wantBut I understood and mean to improve on that part of future spankings.
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Posted on Sunday, July 08, 2007 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post

I think most women want a brave man.. I mean cave man :-) Take care of me baby and never let me go, so to speak. :-)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post

The tone and what is said....is VERY important to me....

A strong in charge man....does it for me everytime!! :-)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 10, 2007 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post

Well she,s gonna get a lot of tone on friday cause she,s been on that same thing again.We had a discussion about it last night and made up this morning BUT I told her that it was something we would discuss more fully on friday
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Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 01:02 am:   Edit Post

Good for you, Buena!
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Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post

I see a trend here...... :-)
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Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post

Sounds to me that she certainly knows how to push his buttons
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Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post

push his buttons to reiterate "Girls just wanna have fun"
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Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post

For me...bratting...no, pushing buttons....oh yeah!
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Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post

Well if that,s pushing my buttons then she certainly did.Thing is I can,t support jealousy.A little is fun a lot is a turn off.And demanding more attention then I can give is worse cause I get stretched to thin there,s not enough of me to go around.When we got to the motel I sat her on the bed and explained how it could happen that the relationship could break up if there was too much of either.Then I got out the bathbrush and gave her the best punishment spanking I,ve ever given.I would have used the whip but I promised to not use it since she stopped chewing her nails.(they,re starting to get long now after a month of not chewing them)Eventually (of course)I couldn,t keep looking at that beautiful ass with out getting turned on so it ended up erotic but I think she might have learned her lesson.For you girls who like stern I was very stern.
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Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post

I talked to her after her spanking,,,,,,,,she swears she will never be jelouse again!! ...
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Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post

Yeah she will!!
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Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post

Probably -- but she might hide it better!
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Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post

We went to the park today and she kind of jokingly started asking me about past girlfriends.and I thought uh huh we,re gettin ready for friday aren,t we??So since the park bench was far enough away so that nobody could see or hear I put her head in my lap and started swatting her ass.Every time a plane went over I put some oomph in it.She doesn,t even feel where I punished her on friday!So I guess we,re out of our erotic cycle and into a punishment cycle.Oh well what the hell!It,s a tough job but somebody,s got to do it!
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Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post

I have to wonder.....did she ask you about past girlfriends just to get spanked???
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Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post

Sounds like pushing buttons for a spanking, to me. But, I must say I am envious of her!
"Teach me a lesson, please..."
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Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post

All I can say, is wow...!
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Posted on Friday, July 27, 2007 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post

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Posted on Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post

Gee such a long time ago. I,ll give you all an update one of these days.
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Posted on Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post

I wish you would BV!!
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Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post

Hey, what happened to that update, BV? I'm waiting...
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Tammynx
Moderator/Spanking Aficionado
Username: Tammynx

Post Number: 2723
Registered: 10-2005


Posted on Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post

Yeah I've been waiting too!!

Just so you know...I'm NOT a patient person!!
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Buenaventura
Supreme Spanko
Username: Buenaventura

Post Number: 946
Registered: 04-2006


Posted on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post

You deserve a good spanking for your lack of patience Tammy !!!Double for you Bethie!!! We,ve been in a routine of spanking and sex every week-end in Antigua.She,s my boss during the week and I,m hers on the week-end!!We,re off to Euurope on the 4th for 3 weeks and would at least like to spank her on top of Gibralter and maybe in the Alhambra.Have a great Christmas guys!!!
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Buenaventura
Supreme Spanko
Username: Buenaventura

Post Number: 948
Registered: 04-2006


Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2013 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post

Hi,all just dropped by to say howdy. We live together now will get married when we can and hopefully live spankingly ever after.
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Buenaventura
Supreme Spanko
Username: Buenaventura

Post Number: 949
Registered: 04-2006


Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2013 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post

We,'re living together gonna get married and live happily spankingly ever after.Amazingly enough she still needs punishment . Lol

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