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Covert13777
New member
Username: Covert13777
Post Number: 10
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 02:01 pm: | 
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as we all know our criminal justice system is overflowing with some persons who just dont belong there. Ie prostitutes and some teenagers and younger adults that are in prison because there are no sentencing options. I would like to know what the members of this group would think of giving judges the option to to some offenders for a sound spanking as oppsed to a few nights in jail for non violent offenses. They really dont learn anything and we have to support there stay at the muncipal hotel and feed them.Of course it would have to be done with the public having the option to view the execution of their sentence. I am not talking whippings or canings just some old fashioned bare bottom warmings.i think it would be a great deterent and a lesson they soon would not forget and not want repeated. |
Shylah
Spanko
Username: Shylah
Post Number: 427
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 02:25 pm: |
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Well Covert, you make a good argument. But for me, that wouldn't be punishment...that's foreplay!
Once I thought I was wrong but I was mistaken
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Sdhrts
New member
Username: Sdhrts
Post Number: 47
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 02:31 pm: |
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I agree with not putting them up in the taxpayer's hotel, for sure. But, is that going to really be punishment for all involved? I know a few people here that might enjoy that attention? Finding people to administer that form of justice wouldn't be difficult I'd imagine.
How is the crime rate in Singapore going....lol? I'd really like to see some reform of archaic laws, admit we lost the war on drugs (NOT CONDONING DRUG USE THOUGH), and lets face it, anyone wanting those vices will find them. The market value driven by supply and demand. What is being done now sure isn't working and costing us a bundle. I really don't like politics; I'd rather spank or be spanked anytime than get deeply into it.
Is IT Better To Give Than To Recieve?
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Covert13777
New member
Username: Covert13777
Post Number: 11
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 06:40 pm: |
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i agree with most of what you said the sex trade ought to be licensed it would cut a lot of the crud out keep the disease rate down and then make the laws stiffer and then enforce them. As for SHYLAH I think she break the law to be the first on line hee hee. Just joking I think if they used this system as opposed to giving someone a criminal record for the rest of there life the embarasssment of a good public spanking would knock the crime rate down |
Shylah
Spanko
Username: Shylah
Post Number: 430
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 06:53 pm: |
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Me break the law just to get spanked?? PSHAW!!!!
Once I thought I was wrong but I was mistaken
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Sdhrts
Junior Spanko
Username: Sdhrts
Post Number: 53
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 07:10 pm: |
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Ohhhh, can't you just see it? Shylah and the rest of you fine ladies and sub gentleman all on the news.
Headlines Read-Traffic Jams Nationwide as a Mass of Delinquents Turns Themselves In to Spanking Court! All refuse due process and plead guilty! Calls Go Out To Paddle Manufactures For Stepped Up Production! And what line do I get in?
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Sdhrts
Junior Spanko
Username: Sdhrts
Post Number: 54
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 07:16 pm: |
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Shylah, no need to worry, good girls get spanked too. Like the good girl to my left....lol
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Shylah
Spanko
Username: Shylah
Post Number: 431
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 07:50 pm: |
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I'm not just a good girl...I am THE good girl! oh..don't forget adorable, sweet, innocent and willing. <weg>
Once I thought I was wrong but I was mistaken
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Sdhrts
Junior Spanko
Username: Sdhrts
Post Number: 56
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 07:53 pm: |
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But Shylah, I'm afraid you forgot to list modest!.....lol
I'll take your word for it on the rest too, I'm sure you really are.
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Tammynx
Spanko
Username: Tammynx
Post Number: 144
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 08:00 pm: |
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I'm having a hard time with that list Shylah.... |
Celticbratt
Junior Spanko
Username: Celticbratt
Post Number: 59
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Monday, November 07, 2005 - 09:01 pm: |
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GEESH...gettin Mighty deep in here Shyla! SDHURTS, I LOVE you pic by the way...;)And I am SO PLEADING guilty to that itty bitty ticket I got................. |
Ftopinmichigan
Junior Spanko
Username: Ftopinmichigan
Post Number: 129
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 08:56 am: |
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Shylah's "foreplay" comment is right on, as I see it.
Spanking, or any other corporal punishment, toward an adult, in the context of changing behavior is a joke, IMO. People that get spanked now, enjoy it, and are fooling themselves to think it's all but structure and improving their bad behavior. It's a game or sensual fun.
IMO, spanking IS sensual, and a turn on, in spite of some seeing it, or using it otherwise. It's fun, or makes them feel good, in more ways than one. It may "hurt"...but it's all good.
How can you offer that to a criminal?
A spanking...is a EASY punishment. Take the punishment and go back to do what you want again. It does nothing to educate, train, improve behavior. It's instills momentary pain, upon an offender, that knows the pain will go away sooner, than later. (For the "criminal spanko, it would be hopefully later  )
There are thousands of webpages on this debate regarding early childhood discipline, and the theory is no different for an adult, IMO.
K |
Sdhrts
Junior Spanko
Username: Sdhrts
Post Number: 58
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 09:44 am: |
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This was tried at a private school I attended. I'll spare the details, but even then it was exciting and I can remember other kids laughing about it. Now wonder I have this teacher student thing...lol. Coatroom anyone?
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Covert13777
New member
Username: Covert13777
Post Number: 12
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 09:45 am: |
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we are not talking about children here we are talking about teens and probably young adults. there would be a limit of three spanking sentences than upon conviction of a fourth offense they would face the maximum jail sentence with no appeal. I only threw this out there for comment. Of course there would be guide lines and stipulations involved but i cant see why someone has to go through life with a criminal record over some minor infraction. I think if yu tenderize there bottom publicly they are not going to forget it. A criminal is a criminal so ok they might get a pass or two but eventually they are going to get whats really coming to them this program would be for stupid crimes that can block somebodys ongoing education. Not the serious stuff |
Ftopinmichigan
Junior Spanko
Username: Ftopinmichigan
Post Number: 132
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 10:03 am: |
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Covert, I understand where you're coming from on this, but "humiliation" usually does nothing to change behavior, as I see it. It shames the person and mostly creates anger and resentment. (Unless of course it's their fetish interest, to be humiliated, and even then, it would be a turn on.)
I don't see that a "stupid crime" is going to stop someone from going onto to becoming a better person, or detour them from improving their life. It may be a stumbling block for a hiccup moment, but most organizations, colleges and even employers are able to see a childish prank, or foolish choice, for what it is. (And I do think we're probably defining "stupid crime" in the same context.)
Honestly, I think if people were taught to take responsibility for their actions, regardless of the threat of punishment, the "stupid crimes" wouldn't be happening. The consequences of maybe not getting ahead, or what they want, would leave a much greater impression on them, than a good old fashioned spanking. Dotcha think?
K
PS Oh, and FYI...the reference that I made to "children" was in the context that the studies on corporal punishment, and their results would be no different than if the punishment was given to adults. I am not, and NEVER talk about children in the context of my spanking interest. |
Sdhrts
Junior Spanko
Username: Sdhrts
Post Number: 59
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 10:04 am: |
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My point, made by just about the rest of the people here is spanking is erotic, regardless of the word punishment, in my own descriptions anyway. Most post in other discussions verify that. Felons in most states have an expungement process they can opt for after a period of time. I’m not sure I want felons to skate the first time anyway. Misdemeanors shouldn't hinder most people, and are expunged or sealed in most first time instances after five years
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Covert13777
New member
Username: Covert13777
Post Number: 13
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 10:16 am: |
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as i said this is for those stupid crimes non violent misdemenors traffic offences stuff like that |
Wolfie
Moderator/Spanking Aficionado
Username: Wolfie
Post Number: 746
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 10:56 am: |
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I guess I'm in the minority here...I dont find anything pleasurable or sexy about being spanked hard, say with a drilled wooden school paddle, for a mild infraction. It would be frightening to know what was coming, and from a complete stranger...in front of witnesses.
I know some of us can take a lot, but we're spankos. We understand about warm ups and raising our levels gently. Can you imagine if you'd never been spanked in your life, and you got paddled really hard...cold? Even as someone who is into the lifestyle that would keep me from wanting to repeat whatever I had done to deserve it.
wolfie loves Steve more than anything else in the whole world...even more than chocolate and lobster!
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.
Perhaps they are not stars in the sky, but rather openings where our loved ones shine down to let us know they are happy.
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Covert13777
New member
Username: Covert13777
Post Number: 14
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 12:34 pm: |
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thank you wolfie i couldnt have put it any better
i think that if your not into the scene a good bare bottom spanking is bad enough but put you in front of a room full of perfect strangers i dont think you would want to come back for a repeat performance |
Celticbratt
Junior Spanko
Username: Celticbratt
Post Number: 63
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 12:34 pm: |
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I have to agree with Wolfie- It would SO make me not want to repeat that- There is a MAJOR difference between erotic spankings vs. punishment spankings...BIG HUGE difference. That is one of the reasons I haven't move south yet- to get out of the snow- I found out that they actually still spank children in school down south...Would never want some other person doing something like that to my child-I would physically go after them....Anyway, if I knew that I would get a public punishment spanking for something, hell YES would it deter me from doing somethng. I'm with Wolfie on this one. |
Covert13777
New member
Username: Covert13777
Post Number: 15
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 01:05 pm: |
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well since the celticbratt raised the issue of spanking in the schools how do you feel about that should it be allowed or should the parents have to come to the school to discipline there child. now mind you im not talking little children im talking teens |
Celticbratt
Junior Spanko
Username: Celticbratt
Post Number: 67
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 01:14 pm: |
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I would think it should be something MAJOR!!!!!!! In order to be warranted? Just my opinion- The HELL with in school suspension, I would have been a MUCH better behaved young lady, if I knew my teachers could spank me..although I graduated in 89, and I actually DID have a teacher come looking for me with a paddle<giggle, yup, some things don't seem to change much...STILL givin Big G a hell of a time...heeheehee |
Covert13777
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Username: Covert13777
Post Number: 16
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 01:49 pm: |
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what would you consider major and what punishment would you suggest |
Covert13777
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Username: Covert13777
Post Number: 17
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 01:51 pm: |
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just a after thought would it be in private or in front of the school body |
Celticbratt
Junior Spanko
Username: Celticbratt
Post Number: 69
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 01:53 pm: |
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fighting, anything violent in nature-Flat out, in your face major type stuff- willfullness I guess... |
Covert13777
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Username: Covert13777
Post Number: 18
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 02:19 pm: |
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ok but you didnt indicate the type or whether private or public |
Ftopinmichigan
Junior Spanko
Username: Ftopinmichigan
Post Number: 136
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 02:47 pm: |
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Covert13777: "as i said this is for those stupid crimes non violent misdemenors traffic offences stuff like that"
I guess I don't see a traffic offense as punishible by a spanking, in the court system. We're NOT on same wave lenght on "stupid crimes."  ) I actually don't think they think of "traffic tickets" as crimes here. I got a speeding ticket over 30 years ago...am I a criminal with a record?
A friend of mine got a ticket for not wearing her seat belt. Apparently too busy to put it on, and then forgot. She received a $65 ticket, and since she's in between careers right now, that $65 hurt much more than any spanking she could've gotten
Punishment fitting the crime is a rule I've always followed. Spanked by your spouse for a ticket, may be appropriate, but not the court system.
Just my take on that particular "crime." |
Covert13777
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Username: Covert13777
Post Number: 19
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 03:34 pm: |
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well actually a summonss or traffic ticket is in lieu of arrest. i have some inside knowledge on this matter. i just had a battle with a probation officer over this very issue and they consiider a moving violation a crime. I think that they are really stretching it but so be it. now you mentioned that you would take a spanking from your spose for getting a ticket, now lets say you have a eighteen year old who gets a ticket for reckless driving would you not rather see them get a spanking then get a criminal record or all those added costs from the insurance companies again i go back to taking it out of there hyde |
Ftopinmichigan
Junior Spanko
Username: Ftopinmichigan
Post Number: 137
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 07:47 pm: |
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 No, Covert, I would NEVER accept a spanking from my spouse. First and foremost, I'm not married. ...and not only am I NOT into a DD relationship, I'm a Top.
As I've posted numerous times, I don't see spanking as anything but a pleasure. I don't use it for punishment, except when doing so in role play...for fun.
If I had an eighteen year old daughter or son, that "adult" would decide what they wanted to do, IF they had an option. They would know that a judicial spanking was inappropriate, and criminal in itself. They might also have the genetic kink too, and would be aware of the implications of such an act.
I think this idea of spanking as judicial punishment is just a fantasy gone wild.
Some men that have spanked their employees were not only charged with assault, they were charged with "sexual" assault. How you're not seeing the two going together is amazing to me, and I'm not meaning to sound nasty here either. I'm just truly amazed.
I'm outta this thread now, as it's not constructive for me to debate something that's fantasy, built outta this kink interest.
K |
Celticbratt
Junior Spanko
Username: Celticbratt
Post Number: 71
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 07:48 pm: |
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Breakin' the law, Breakin' the law...dah dah...consider the other side of it though<WEG...thousands of poor lonley spankos going out and breaking the law, just so they can get spanked...heeheehee- Damn, between Bethie, Wolfie, and I, I see a small crime wave coming on...court costs...enough to bankrupt a small town...heeheehee...Yea judge, I did 45 in a 30...WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT????/ Nope, on second thought, this won't work on SO many levels. |
Wolfie
Moderator/Spanking Aficionado
Username: Wolfie
Post Number: 747
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 08:32 pm: |
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Ahem! Celticbratt I may be naughty, but I'm not a criminal...at least not yet! 
wolfie loves Steve more than anything else in the whole world...even more than chocolate and lobster!
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.
Perhaps they are not stars in the sky, but rather openings where our loved ones shine down to let us know they are happy.
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Celticbratt
Junior Spanko
Username: Celticbratt
Post Number: 74
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 08:38 pm: |
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Give it time hunny- depends on how long you have to go before you see Steve again...lol |
Wolfie
Moderator/Spanking Aficionado
Username: Wolfie
Post Number: 749
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 08:45 pm: |
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Not that long this time, thank goodness. And since he has started using the cane for my curfew breaking, thats a doubly good thing!!! 
wolfie loves Steve more than anything else in the whole world...even more than chocolate and lobster!
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.
Perhaps they are not stars in the sky, but rather openings where our loved ones shine down to let us know they are happy.
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Celticbratt
Junior Spanko
Username: Celticbratt
Post Number: 75
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 08:52 pm: |
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Always LOVED the bumper sticker that said...." A friend will bail you out of jail, a REALLY good friend will be sitting next to you saying- Damn that was fun..." |
Wolfie
Moderator/Spanking Aficionado
Username: Wolfie
Post Number: 753
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 10:30 pm: |
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hehehehehehe I like that one too! 
wolfie loves Steve more than anything else in the whole world...even more than chocolate and lobster!
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.
Perhaps they are not stars in the sky, but rather openings where our loved ones shine down to let us know they are happy.
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Celticbratt
Junior Spanko
Username: Celticbratt
Post Number: 78
Registered: 04-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 03:32 am: |
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The really bad part Wolfie...is that I DO have friends close enough/warped enough to be sitting next to me...lol...we have actually joked about the fact I'd RATHER stay in jail, as opposed to calling Big G..."Sir?, Um, hi honey...I KNOW it's 4 am, but I need you to come bail me outta jail , cause I did (fill in the blank here--general mayhem I'm thinking), and I'm sitting here till you come collect me"....Yea fucking hell NOOOOOOOO!!!!! would rather face a fireing squad, than make THAT phone call...lol- Big G wuld KILL me..........Would SO be a bad gril spanking...sigh..... |
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